2023-05-04 GSWG Meeting Notes

Meeting Date

The GSWG meets bi-weekly on Thursdays at 11:00-12:00 PT / 18:00-19:00 UTC. Check the ToIP Calendar for meeting dates.

Zoom Meeting Link / Recording

  • Zoom Link
    (This link will be replaced with a link to the recording of the meeting as soon as it is available)

Attendees

Scott Perry 
Savita Farooqui 
Carly 
Daniel Bachenheimer 
Judith Fleenor 
Kyle Robinson 
Mary Lacity 
Neil Thomson 
Keerthi Thomas

Anita Rao

Steven Milstein  

Main Goal of this Meeting

Understand the opportunity to create a governance framework for dual-stack interoperability.

Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)

TimeAgenda ItemLeadNotes
5 min
  • Start recording
  • Welcome & antitrust notice
  • Introduction of new members
  • Agenda review
Chairs
  • Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.
  • New Members:
5 minsReview of action items from previous meetingChairs
5 minsAnnouncementsTF Leads

News or events of interest to Governance Stack WG members

  1. Attraction Pass Task Force: Meets once every two weeks on Tuesdays
  2. Issuer Governance Requirements Task Force: Meets once every two weeks on Wednesdays 
  3. Carly mentioned Daniel Hardman https://daniel-hardman.medium.com/big-desks-and-little-people-e1b1b9e92d79
  4. Mary Lacity mentioned https://www.itpro.com/security/phishing/as-google-launches-passwordless-authentication-for-all-what-are-the-business-benefits-of-passkeys
  5. Scott Perry
    1. May 11: Speaking at ISACA Digital Trust World Conference
    2. Finance and Treasurer Conference, Providence, Rhode Island with speaker is is Liz Tanner, the Secretary, the Commerce Secretary for Rhode Island, discussing digital trust type of engagements.
    3. June 19-20: Speaking at Velocity’s General Assembly about conformity assessment and governance. Doing verifiable credentials of background checks. Showing interest in governance and accredation.
  6. Savita Farooqui speaking at ISACA Digital Trust World conference
  7. Daniel Bachenheimer attending E. I. C. The European Identity Conference
  8. Kyle Robinson  & John Jordan , BC Gov will be speaking at Open source Summit in Vancouver, BC
15 minsUpdate from Issuer Governance Requirements Task Force

TBD 

Neil Thomson 

  1. BC Gov & GLEIF will be presenting
  2. Spoke with Jo Spencer & John Phillips down in Australia, about setting up APEC meetings
  3. Continuously validating Use Case:

    1. GLEIF has a one year renewal for somebody like Provenant, a Qualiified VLEI Issuer

    2. What if somebody buys an Issuer.

    3. They decide to change all their software. And behind the behind the scenes and start issuing stuff that have have no backing, and and they haven't done any diligence since the last review

  4. Another Use Case:

    1. Provide for at least the ability to build in the direct link between something that was issued and the entire governance stack

  5. Potential speakers: Scott Perry , Savita Farooqui

  6. [ Neils's summary coming soon ]
  7. Links to Governance and related Models now up on the GSW Issuer Req Models and Diagrams folder: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1FLymrWacb7tHDV5XLuW26P6xk0YE4rEW&authuser=thomsonneilj%40gmail.com&usp=drive_fs

  8. Scott Perry
    1. I think you can be a building block on that, because you're going beyond issuance and talking about how governance plays a role in these things
    2. Governance Architecture Task Force came up with Intro to Governance Development Kit which led to the start of the Museum Pass Task Force
15 minsUpdate from Museum/Attraction Pass Task ForceTBD

Carly  

  1. Shared Intro to Governance Development Kit  
  2. Changing the name of the task force to Attraction Pass because it's more generic & inline with the industry lingo
  3. Heard from industry players and some of the challenges they are facing
  4. SharedJohn Phillips  deck presented yesterday at GATF Presentation Towards a mental model for governance - Google Slides
15 minsDebrief from IIWTBD

Scott Perry

  1. Held Governance & Accountability sessions getting better traction than four years ago
  2. Takea away since last time attending before pandemic:

    1. Last time was everyone still deciding on the technology

    2. I think we're all agreed on, you know. 4 years ago I went to a session with Sam Smith, just introducing KERI, and now we had sessions on Kerry for dummies, which was fun, Kerry 101, 201 and 301.
    3. Sam also had 3 session and discussed how do you do security, confidentiality, and privacy in transactions
    4. A lot of discussion about trust registry and how we could use DNS, the existing infrastructure, and that was also advanced at today's Trust Registry Task Force. I think that's starting to take hold because you know it doesn't it won't require much change in in in the backbone of the Internet to support. So I think that there's a groundswell of interest around trying to kind of move forward with that

Kyle Robinson 

  1. There was a lot more representation from governments
  2. More of a focus on the use cases and user experience. and not so much the battles of the Protocols

  3. Things seem to have like moved up a layer in the Trust over IP stack

Carly 

  1. Focus more on use cases & what problem are you trying to solve
  2. More discussions on how to communicate your idea

Savita Farooqui 

  1. Presented the work done on the Registry Trust infrastructure that we've been working on with UNDP and World Health Organization ly, the project began with Covid credential but moved to a registry of registries
  2. Content authenticity in the world of AI. With Chat Gpt we are getting some information when we ready, but authenticity of the source data that is fed to the AI. And what AI is generating the authenticity in that! How can we establish trust over IP when it comes to content and data.]

Judith Fleenor 

  1. Wenjing Chu presented on AI
  2. Timothy Ruff spoke on organizational identity and how it's probably a bigger business model in some ways than individual identity, because if once an organization has an an identity, then they can issue identies for employees
  3. Also noted how that ties into Trust Registries
5 minsAny other business

5 mins
  • Review decisions/action items
  • Planning for next meeting 
Chairs

Screenshots/Diagrams (numbered for reference in notes above)




Action Items

  • Propose another meeting to see if we can combine Savitha and Scott's diagram