2022-06-02 Human Experience Working Group Meeting

16.00 UTC = 9:00 PT = 12.00 ET =18:00 CEST = 21:30 IST Zoom Meeting Link https://zoom.us/j/99429712733?pwd=K214bTM4cG54YzZYVnZCL1I5MEdQQT09

Meeting Recording

Main Goal of this meeting: Update on Deliverables

Attendees: Rebekah Skeete, @Phil Wolff, Shireen Mitchell, @Vikas Malhotra , Suma

Time	Item	Lead	Notes
5 mins	Welcome & antitrust notice Agenda review	Kalin	Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role. Join ToIP if not already a member Consent to meeting recording? Suma - architect at IBM,
10 mins	New Intro's & Updates	Kalin	Expert series talks now on YouTube - all wiki pages updated see here - time to reflect discuss? Please promote on YouTube what have we learnt, how does this translate into the work of HXWG what is the response of the community - what has resonated (link with practical examples always useful) How does this help us to define what we mean by HX? New Resources: HX WG Miro Board - https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVO0ECiiQ=/?share_link_id=560173192883
10mins	Follow up on previous actions	Kalin	@Jim StClair to share use case / case study @Phil Wolff to outline potential blog post: "Challenges of human consent at scale" List of challenges: Cognitive limits. Useful fictions and metaphors. Opacity of devices with wallets. Friends-of-Friends-of... consent cascades. Consent on behalf of private enterprises, families, etc. Consent for audiences (different ages, languages, abilities, cultural references). How to communicate threat models, chances, and consequences of each decision in ways that allow for meaningful consent. UX design concerns: timing relative to contexts, user goals, usability, accessibility, visual emphasis, semiotics. Avoiding dark patterns. Applying the list to the ToIP stack, to product design, to research agendas. Update: Initial conversation outlining the complexity of consent network, the number and type of events exponentially grow passing the threshold a human might meaningfully do or decide. Thinking around an agent role, which has a fiduciary duty under law to act in the best interest of the person - however there is no outline of the "data fiduciaries" or EU "intermediaries". Idea is to spell out and scope the problem to serve as an orientation. @Nicky Hickman to add HX Terms Wiki (update 02 June - Daniel Hardman has created the terms wiki here) @Kalin to map stakeholders and steps in decision making to achieve goals using Alice Faber ACME use case, then we can map decisions against it. (update 30/05 - see HXWG board https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVO0ECiiQ=/?moveToWidget=3458764525533175498&cot=14) @Kalin to see if Dan Gisolfi will join us for first implementer interview.. Also potential reach out to @Darrell O'Donnell @Riley Hughes and @Karl Kneis (update 30/05 - scheduled for September "Interview the Implementer" and "Expert Series" to renew in September.
30 mins	Deliverables	Kalin	Review Scenario-building - agree who will support completion - @Nicky Hickman @Andrew Slack- anyone else? Shireen interested in joining and contributing, to reach out to Andrew and Nicky. Review the deliverables document - discuss - agree on small realistic set of deliverables by end of the quarter & the year. Adding in as learnt from Expert Series where the key challenges lie? What is our scope? e.g. does it include the developer experience? Do we need a stakeholder map
5 mins	Actions & AOB	Kalin	@Phil Wolff - select one of the drafts and share for discussion. Shireen - to reach out to Andrew and Nicky, join the work on Scenario Building