• Start recording
• Welcome & antitrust notice
• New member introductions
• Agenda review

• Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.
• New Members: None

Agenda:

1. Summary of updates, discussion and suggestions on diagram since last meeting, including any feedback from other WGs
2. Discuss and work through some specific suggestions (Carly, Scott)
3.  Consider how best to tackle Sankarshan's simple summary request/challenge (see Slack channel, https://trustoverip.slack.com/archives/C03F46GAF33/p1710906109185549)

Meeting notes distilled from the audio transcript by ChatGPT (disclaimer: these have been read briefly but please feel free to correct/improve if necessary)

Incorporating the additional chat messages, here's a further expanded and refined summary of the meeting:

Summary of Key Points and Discussions

The meeting engaged participants in a deep dive into the aspects of ecosystems, technology, and governance within the trust over IP (ToIP) framework, emphasizing the creation and refinement of a comprehensive diagram to illustrate these concepts clearly.

- John Phillips led the initiation, suggesting a focus on updates, discussions, and the diagram they have been developing.
- Neil Thomson introduced the idea of ecosystems in relation to the ecosystem foundry group, underlining the essence of trust relationships and governance. He noted the transition from "Issuer Requirements Spec" to "Issuer Guideline" for similar reasons cited by John concerning the "Ecosystem" canvas.
- Carly Huitema and Neil Thomson debated the definitions and roles within ecosystems, such as verifiers potentially being relying parties, and the broad categorization of entities (people, organizations, things) that can assume the roles of holders and verifiers.
- Drummond Reed agreed on clarifying in the ToIP Glossary the distinction between verifiers and relying parties. He also proposed adding "Verifiable Identifier" annotations at Layer 2 of the technology stack to more accurately represent endpoints.
- Kyle Robinson and Scott Perry discussed how ecosystems might choose technology components, such as protocols, specifications, and wallets, highlighting the need for flexibility and consideration of various supporting concepts and technologies.

Key Insights from Chat Messages: 

• Ecosystems aim to add digital trust to processes, as highlighted by Carly, emphasizing the significance of verifiable data as a combined product of technology and governance.
• There was a consensus on the importance of context within ecosystems, with Neil Thomson highlighting the diversity of verifiable data types and their content and verifiability.
• Participants recognized the repetition of governance elements in the "Ecosystem" column and considered whether technology elements should also be represented.
• Drummond Reed suggested changing annotations to delineate "ToIP Model / Span of Control" and "Ecosystem Instance / Span of Control," aiming to clarify the distinction between the model and its instances.
• An idea was floated to present the ecosystem column as a series of checkboxes, each representing a component considered in the design or operation of an ecosystem, acknowledging that this list is not exhaustive.

Agreed Actions and Reflections

• The group agreed on the need to clarify and simplify the representation of ecosystems in the diagram, avoiding unnecessary duplication and emphasizing the distinct roles and components relevant to the trust over IP framework.
• There was an acknowledgment that the ecosystem should be presented as an instance of the application of the ToIP model, with flexibility to include various technology and governance elements based on specific needs and contexts.
• Participants considered the potential of using the diagram to compare existing systems with ToIP-enhanced systems, providing a roadmap for adoption of SSI/ToIP, as exemplified by Neil Thomson with the BC mining reporting system.

The meeting underscored the collaborative effort to refine the ToIP diagram, ensuring it effectively communicates the interplay between ecosystems, technology, and governance within the digital trust framework. Participants contributed valuable insights and suggestions, pointing towards a more intuitive and instructional representation of the ToIP model and its application in real-world ecosystems.

• Review decisions/action items
• Planning for next meeting