2024-12-11 GATF Meeting Notes - Americas

This TF schedules meetings as needed. Each meeting will be announced on the GSWG mailing list and the #governance-architecture-tf Slack channel.

The current cadence is that there are two GATF meetings every two weeks:

Americas: Wednesday 4pm PDT | 7pm EST | Thursday 9am AEST (UTC+10)
Zoom: https://zoom.us/j/94290110805?pwd=OEVhd2IwUUxTblNtYUNOVEtGaUNBUT09

APAC/Europe: Thursday 1am PDT | 6pm AEST (UTC+10) | CEST/3pm (UTC+2)
https://zoom.us/j/97765626957?pwd=L2RFRmczTlpoWS9RQkhwaUdjaVpHdz09

The meetings (and Zoom links) are available on the ToIP meeting calendar:
https://lf-toip.atlassian.net/wiki/display/HOME/Calendar+of+ToIP+Meetings

Zoom Meeting Links / Recordings

Video and Transcript: Video Conferencing, Web Conferencing, Webinars, Screen Sharing

Attendees

@John Phillips

@Neil Thomson

@Drummond Reed or perhaps @Drummond Reed or perhaps @Drummond Reed ? [I still see many Drummond Reeds…]

@Scott Perry

Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)

Time

Agenda Item

Lead

Notes

3 min

  • Start recording

  • Welcome & antitrust notice

  • New member introductions

  • Agenda review

Chairs

  • Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.

 

  • No new members in discussion

2 min

Review of previous action items

Chairs

 

 

Topic #1

 

 

 

Topic #2

 

 

 

Topic #3

 

 

 

Topic #4

 

 

5 mins

  • Review decisions/action items

  • Planning for next meeting 

Chairs

 

Summary of meeting:

Generated by NotebookLM based on the Zoom transcript

This meeting was a quick catch-up between John Phillips, Neil Thomson, Scott Perry and Drummond Reed to discuss the Governance Architecture Task Force (GATF). The main points of the meeting were:

A. Reviewing the November Discussions

John Phillips started the meeting by reviewing the key points of the previous two meetings held in November, including:

  • Confirmation of a substantive set of documents and an approach for governance as a broad topic, primarily due to Scott Perry's efforts.

  • Identification of interoperability between independently governed systems as an emerging topic.

    • Examples cited include the Global Acceptance Network (GAN), the ISO MDL Standard, and independent driving license authorities.

  • The increasing importance of verifiers in cross-ecosystem governance, potentially leading to GAN-like thinking in terms of trust points.

  • Recognition of vocabulary alignment as a persistent and well-known challenge that needs to be addressed from a governance architecture perspective.

  • Discussion about real-world use cases like the ISO mDoc/MDL, the UN Transparency Protocol, and the Universal Data Protocol (UDP).

    • John Phillips highlighted his work on the UDP for the built environment, a collaboration between Standards Australia and the International Code Council.

    • The UDP aims to establish a universal method for making sustainability claims (ESG, embedded carbon, etc.) throughout the built environment lifecycle.

B. Updates and Decisions

  • Drummond Reed announced that Carly will be joining the Concept and Terminology Working Group as co-chair, replacing Hank.

  • Drummond Reed confirmed the nomination of John Phillips and Neil Thomson as members of the Steering Committee for 2025, as per the Steering Committee's decision to include all 16 nominees.

C. Actions Agreed Upon

  • John Phillips will edit the charter page of the Governance Architecture Task Force, taking into account the potential merger with the Ecosystem Foundry Working Group.

    • Scott Perry will propose the merger at the next Governance Stack Working Group meeting.

D. Key Ideas and Proposals

  • Merger of the Governance Stack Working Group and the Ecosystem Foundry Working Group.

    • This proposal was suggested by Scott Perry to streamline activities and create a more robust R&D arm for governance within Trust over IP.

    • The proposed name for the combined working group is "Ecosystem and Governance Working Group."

    • The merger would allow for better alignment between the market-facing activities of the Ecosystem Foundry and the architectural work of the GATF.

  • Creation of a white paper outlining requirements for interoperable trust between ecosystems.

    • This document would serve as a guide for establishing trust and reliance between independent ecosystems.

    • It would provide a practical interpretation of the Metamodel and address elements like levels of assurance, issuer and member control, and conformance programs.

  • Finalization of existing issuer requirements and the potential development of similar guidelines for verifier and holder responsibilities.

  • Development of a "State of Trust" concept, building on the existing Trust Town metaphor.

    • John Phillips suggested this concept to represent a dynamic and fluid environment where trust towns can enter and exit based on their adherence to agreed-upon requirements.

    • The "State of Trust" would move away from a purely geographical definition and foster a more collaborative and inclusive approach to trust building.

E. Miscellaneous

  • Adjusting Steering Committee meeting times to accommodate John Phillips' time zone.

    • Scott Perry suggested aligning meeting times with the current time slot (2-4 pm PST) to avoid scheduling conflicts.

  • Continued discussion on personal credentials, with the understanding that it might require separate funding and a broader scope than the current task force.

  • Age assurance in Australia and the challenges of implementing legislation restricting social media access for under-16s.

    • This discussion highlighted a real-world use case with significant governance implications and potential relevance to the work of the task force.

F. Meeting Closure

  • John Phillips will create a new page for the meeting notes, incorporating contributions from all participants.

  • The group will reconvene in the New Year to continue their work, focusing on developing the ideas and actions outlined in this meeting.

Please note that this summary is solely based on the provided transcript.

Chat notes

 

Decisions

 

Action Items