Time

Agenda Item

Lead

Notes

3 min

• Start recording

• Welcome & antitrust notice

• Introduction of new members

• Agenda review

Chairs

• Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.

• New Members:

8 min

General announcements

All

Updates from TSWG members of general interest to the group.

• The Trust Spanning Protocol, Trust Registry Protocol, did:webs, and ToIP governance were all strong topics at IIW. ToIP related sessions included:

  • ToIP Trust Spanning Protocol for Muggles

  • ToIP Trust Spanning Protocol Deep Dive

  • Did:webs for Muggles

  • Lessons Learned from the GLEIF vLEI Ecosystem Governance Framework

  • ToIP Glossary

• We also gave two sessions on ToIP at the Linux Foundation Member Summit in Monterey last week:

  • What is a Digital Trust Ecosystem? (@Drummond Reed & @Kyle Robinson)

  • Defining the Protocol for Internet-Scale Digital Trust (panel discussion)

2 min

TSWG IPR Terms Changeover

Chairs

The 60 day Call for Exclusions period under the TSWG's previous IPR terms has ended. Due to the Linux Foundation Member Summit last week, the chairs need to circle with Judith to determine the formal logistics for closing the existing TSWG and opening the new one.

ACTION: TSWG Co-Chairs @Drummond Reed, @Darrell O'Donnell, & @Kevin Griffin to work with ToIP ED @Judith Fleenor (Deactivated) to manage the formal logistics for closing the existing TSWG and opening the new instance under the new IPR terms.

2 min

Review of action items from the previous meeting

Chairs

None!

25 min

Leveraging DNS in Digital Trust

@Jesse Carter 

Jesse will provide an overview of this new effort in IETF in which he, @Jacques Latour (Deactivated) and others are driving. The IETF Internet Draft is called:

Leveraging DNS in Digital Trust: Credential Exchanges and Trust Registries

Leveraging DNS in Digital Trust Presentation: See screenshots #1 thru #16 below.

Northern Block Blog Post: https://northernblock.io/blog/leveraging-dns-in-digital-trust-credential-exchanges-and-trust-registries/

CIRA Labs Github: https://github.com/CIRALabs/TrustyDID

Presentation Link: https://github.com/CIRALabs/Presentations/blob/main/Trust%20Over%20IP%20Plenary%20Meeting%202023-10-31.pdf

Q&A:

@Tim Bouma "Sold!" He thought this was really great work and would help very much with adoption.

@Darrell O'Donnell asked what the penetration of DNSSEC is today. Jesse said that, he wasn't sure, but it thought it was on the order of 20%, and that larger DNS providers/registrars were working on initiatives to provide it automatically.

20 min

Task Force Reports

TF Leads

Technology Architecture TF — @Wenjing Chu  @Drummond Reed

• Example Use Cases for the ToIP Stack is largely done (just final comments cleanup).

• ToIP Glossary is largely ready (awaiting TEv2 tooling from the Concepts and Terminology WG to apply it to the spec).

• Work on the third generation ToIP stack diagram is ongoing (very active discussions in the Governance Architecture TF).

Trust Registry TF — @Andor @Antti Kettunen  @Darrell O'Donnell

• Registry of Registries concept being explored - this may be different than the Trust Registry Protocol or just an extension.

Trust Spanning Protocol TF — @Drummond Reed @Wenjing Chu @Sam Smith 

• Two presentations (one for Muggles and one for Wizards) were giving on the TSP at Internet Identity Workshop (see links above).

• Wenjing continues to make steady progress on the Working Draft.

ACDC TF — @Sam Smith @Philip Feairheller 

• Updates for ACDC spec revised format workflow.

• KERI spec is first, PRs are up and comments would be great!

AI & Metaverse (AIM) Technology TF — @Wenjing Chu 

• The AIM Task Force just submitted its response to US Copyright Office’s RFC on “Artificial Intelligence and Copyright”. Here is the link if you are interested in a read. Wenjing plans to publish a blog post to make it more accessible to ToIP members.  For more related discussions, please join the AIM Task Force #tswg-aim-tf

Credential Exchange Protocols TF — @mathieu 

• Judith reported that the TF has put together an extensive spreadsheet of the four major protocols. They are now discussing the details and trying to extract the most important details for specific audiences.

• https://www.trustoverip.org/blog/2023/10/10/simplifying-the-selection-process-for-credential-issuance-and-presentation-protocols/

did:webs Task Force — @Lance Byrd @Philip Feairheller @Markus Sabadello 

• Kevin reported that at IIW, @Markus Sabadello did a fantastic demo of did:webs, showing how it protects against attacks on the DID document. The link is https://github.com/peacekeeper/did-webs-iiw37-tutorial

• There is discussion going on about a universal "Whois" capability for DIDs.

• The TF is getting close to have a finished spec.

5 min

• Review decisions/action items

• Planning for next meeting 

Chairs