2023-07-19 TSWG Meeting Notes
Meeting Date
- The TSWG currently holds plenary meetings once every four weeks on Wednesdays. The 2023 meeting dates are Jan 4, Feb 1, Mar 1, Mar 29, Apr 26, May 24, Jun 21, Jul 19. There will be a summer break in July, and then a new schedule will be adopted starting in Sept (see the ACTIONS list at the end of this page).
- Two meetings are held each Wednesday to accommodate global time zones:
- NA/EU Meeting: 08:00-09:00 PT / 16:00-17:00 UTC
- APAC Meeting: 18:00-19:00 PT / 02:00-03:00 UTC
- See the ToIP Calendar for all meeting dates, times and logistics, including Zoom links.
Zoom Meeting Link / Recording
- NA/EU: https://zoom.us/rec/share/P7go1OwIGfSNdZqR5ykDuZuNIhwpgOIh2phD07nugi2SyFJ2ihGpGY9uZsL2Oyam.t6f4-xgvAvvep-8i
- APAC: No recording was made of this meeting since it was a small group reviewing our NA/EU meeting progress.
Attendees
NA/EU:
- Darrell O'Donnell
- Drummond Reed
- Steve McCown
- Philip Feairheller
- Judith Fleenor
- Neil Thomson
- Tim Bouma
- Matteo Midena
- mathieu
- Kevin Griffin
- @Marcus Ubani (Larissa.Health)
- Stephen Curran
- Lance Byrd
- Steve McCown
APAC:
Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)
Time | Agenda Item | Lead | Notes |
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5 min | General announcements | All | Updates from TSWG members of general interest to the group:
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2 min | Review of action items from the previous meeting | Chairs |
This was not completed yet. See the final agenda item below. |
20 min | Task Force Reports | TF Leads200 | Technology Architecture TF — Wenjing Chu Drummond Reed The primary progress has been on the ToIP Glossary Workspace. Drummond said that it currently has ~200 terms, with only four currently still required definitions. The next steps are:
Trust Registry TF — Andor Antti Kettunen Darrell O'Donnell
Trust Spanning Protocol TF — Drummond Reed Wenjing Chu Sam Smith
ACDC TF — Sam Smith Philip Feairheller
AI & Metaverse (AIM) Technology TF — Wenjing Chu
Credential Exchange Protocol TF - mathieu
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10 min | Trust Registry Protocol | Darrell O'Donnell | Darrell presented an overview (see screenshot #1 below) of how the three protocol proposals relate. This clarifies the scope of the Trust Registry Protocol (TRP) and the TIP — see screenshots #2 and #3 below. Darrell then showed screenshot #4 that explains how these three protocols relate. Darrell also pointed out the key role of registrar as opposed to registry as shown in screenshot #5. |
5 min | Canonical Uses Cases for the ToIP Stack | Drummond Reed | See this Google doc: Canonical Uses Cases for the ToIP Stack. We presented this last month, but please provide feedback on these 25 use cases so they broadly representative of the many common trusted relationship management actions and trust tasks that the ToIP stack can be used for. |
10 mins | Proposed New Task Force: did:webs | Kevin Griffin | See the draft charter page for details about this new TF to draft a new DID method specification for a more secure version of There was a discussion about whether the self-certifying identifier embedded in the did:webs identifier should be restricted to be a "generic" AID or a KERI-specific AID. Philip Feairheller said that the spec could be defined to support any AID, and the first implementation could be specified to use KERI AIDs. Neil Thomson: "++1 AID as a (Requirements) Specification vs. implementation." Stephen Curran said he favors the details provided by the KERI specifications. ACTION: Drummond Reed will contact the proposers of the DID WebS Method Task Force to clarify the licensing listed in the charter. ACTION: Drummond Reed to send an email to the TSWG mailing list notifying all TSWG members of a 7 day review period for the proposed DID WebS Method Task Force, followed by a 7 day email vote seeing if there are any objections. |
5 mins | Revised TSWG Plenary and Trust Spanning Protocol TF Meeting Schedules | Drummond Reed | For the first half of 2023, we have tried a four-week cycle of meetings for the Wednesday 8AM Pacific Time meeting slot: 3 Trust Spanning Protocol TF meetings followed by one TSWG Plenary meeting. It has proved to be very confusing. Thus we propose to simplify things by:
In our last meeting, we decided we will move the monthly TSWG Plenary meeting to a new time slot and dedicate the current time slot to the Trust Spanning Protocol Task Force meetings. After a short discussion, we agreed that: ACTION: Drummond Reed will: a) send an email to the TSWG mailing list proposing to move our TSWG Plenary meeting to every fourth Tuesday with two meeting slots: NA/EU at 08:00-09:00 PT / 15:00-16:00 UTC, and APAC at 18:00-19:00 PT / 02:00-03:00 UTC, b) coordinate with W3C VC WG co-chair Brent Zundel to schedule those meetings so they don't conflict with W3C VC WG special meetings that happen at that same time every two weeks. |
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Screenshots/Diagrams (numbered for reference in notes above)
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Decisions
- None
Action Items
- ACTION: Drummond Reed will: a) send an email to the TSWG mailing list proposing to move our TSWG Plenary meeting to every fourth Tuesday with two meeting slots: NA/EU at 08:00-09:00 PT / 15:00-16:00 UTC, and APAC at 18:00-19:00 PT / 02:00-03:00 UTC, b) coordinate with W3C VC WG co-chair Brent Zundel to schedule those meetings so they don't conflict with W3C VC WG special meetings that happen at that same time every two weeks.
- ACTION: Drummond Reed will contact the proposers of the DID WebS Method Task Force to clarify the licensing listed in the charter.
- ACTION: Drummond Reed to send an email to the TSWG mailing list notifying all TSWG members of a 7 day review period for the proposed DID WebS Method Task Force, followed by a 7 day email vote seeing if there are any objections.