2024-10-01 TSWG Meeting Notes

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Last updated: Oct 01, 2024 by Judith Fleenor
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Meeting Date

  • The TSWG holds a plenary meeting once every four weeks on Tuesdays. The 2024 meeting dates are: 23 Jan, 20 Feb, 19 Mar, 16 Apr, 14 May, 11 June, 9 July, 6 Aug, 3 Sept, 1 Oct, 29 Oct, and 26 Nov.
  • The meeting is at 08:00-09:00 PT / 15:00-16:00 UTC.
  • The TSWG holds an APAC meeting every Wednesday at 18:00-19:00 PT / 01:00-02:00 UTC. This meeting is a consolidated report-out and discussion across all TSWG Task Forces.
  • See the ToIP Calendar for all meeting dates, times and logistics, including Zoom links.

Zoom Meeting Link / Recording

(These links will be replaced with a link to the recording of the meetings as soon as they are available.)

Attendees

Wenjing Chu

Judith Fleenor

Sam Smith

Antti Kettunen

Ed Eykholt

Jacques Latour

Jesse Carter

Markus Sabadello

Neil Thomson

Philip Feairheller

Steven Milstein

Tim Bouma

Mathieu Glaude

Daniel Bachenheimer


Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)

TimeAgenda ItemLeadNotes
3 min
  • Start recording
  • Welcome & antitrust notice
  • Introduction of new members
  • Agenda review
Chairs
  • Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.
  • New Members:
5 minGeneral announcementsAll

Updates from TSWG members of general interest to the group.

2 minReview of action items from the previous meetingChairs
  • ACTION: Drummond Reed to work with Wenjing Chu to finish the remaining formatting and editing tasks on the ToIP Technology Architecture Specification Public Review Draft 02 and then send an email by Friday 06 Sept to the full ToIP mailing list requesting a 7 day review period.
  • ACTION: When all reviews are finished, Drummond Reed to produce a PDF of the final version of the ToIP Technology Architecture Specification Public Review Draft 02 for posting on the website.
  • ACTION: Darrell O'Donnell to make sure the GitHub spec is updated with the new name for the Trust Registry Query Protocol.
  • ACTION: Drummond Reed to check with Wenjing Chu about having the next blog post about the Trust Spanning Protocol ready for posting prior to Sept 16.
  • ACTION: Drummond Reed to remind Wenjing Chu that the Credentials Exchange Protocols TF would like to have a presentation about the Trust Spanning Protocol.
  • ACTION: Drummond Reed to send an email asking to see who else may be interested in joining as a Technology Stack Working Group co-chair or vice-chair.

  • ACTION: Drummond Reed and Judith Fleenor to contact Scott Nicholas to get instructions about how to proceed with the rechartering of the Technology Stack WG to use the W3C Patent License option again.

  • ACTION: Once we have the answers from Scott Nicholas, Judith Fleenor to convene a meeting of the TSWG chairs and KERI Suite WG (KSWG) chairs to discuss the formation of the KSWG and the IPR transition of the TSWG.

  • ACTION: Drummond Reed to convene a dedicated meeting of the proposed co-chairs of the rechartered X.509 VID Task Force, including Andre Kudra, Jacques Latour, mathieu, and himself, to agree on the proposed new name (the "High Assurance VIDs Task Force") and charter.
5 minTask Force Reports - KEEP VERY SHORT DUE TO OUR LARGE AGENDATF Leads

Technology Architecture TF — Wenjing Chu  Drummond Reed

  • Good news! The second Public Review Draft is nearly ready. Please review it at <URL to come>

2 PRs checked in (Drummond and Wenjing); draft is online

Trust Registry TF — Andor Antti Kettunen  Darrell O'Donnell

  • This TF has moved back to bi-weekly meetings due to the growing interest in implementing TRQP.

Antti - growing interest; backlog is being hashed-out

Trust Spanning Protocol TF — Drummond Reed Wenjing Chu Sam Smith 

  • Two revisions to the specification were proposed by Sam Smith at last week's meeting. One will enable different VID types without requiring ToIP to maintain a VID type registry. This was agreed in the meeting. The second was a shift in how TSP messages are typed in CESR in order to make them more efficient to process. This one is currently being evaluated by Wenjing Chu and his team.

Wenjing - (1) enable different VID types, (2) more efficient process to define message type

ACDC TF — Sam Smith Philip Feairheller 

  • This TF is to be moved to the new KERI Suite Working Group (see agenda item below).

Sam - (1) move to new WG, (2) ISO finalization

AI & Metaverse (AIM) Technology TF — Wenjing Chu 

  • -

Wenjing - (1) enable different VID types, (2) more efficient process to define message type

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bsgP1LS7G6x9mxqoA3OszevmgVh9lz0YEziR9skId2A/edit?pli=1

Credential Exchange Protocols TF — mathieu 

  • -

Mathieu - <lost connection>

did:webs DID Method TF — Lance Byrd Philip Feairheller Markus Sabadello 

  • This TF is to be moved to the new KERI Suite Working Group (see agenda item below).

Kevin - <connection restored>

X.509 VID Task Force — Eric Scouten Wenjing Chu

Wenjing - closed, no new update (high assurance VID task force)

5 minApproval of New Co-Chairs

Chairs

The proposed new co-chairs are Drummond Reed and Kevin Griffin (incumbents) and Wenjing Chu and Daniel Bachenheimer (new).

No objections, no new proposed co-chairs

5 minApproval of KERI Suite 0.9 SpecsChairsDECISION: The TSWG approves the KERI, ACDC, and CESR specifications at their 0.9 level.
5 minApproval of Contribution of the KERI Suite to the KERI Suite Working GroupChairsDECISION: The TSWG approves contributing the approved KERI, ACDC, and CESR specifications to the new KERI Suite Working Group.
5 minApproval of closing the ACDC Task ForceChairsDECISION: The TSWG shall close the ACDC Task Force as its work is moving to the new KERI Suite Working Group.
5 minApproval of the DID Webs Method 0.9 SpecChairsDECISION: The TSWG approves the DID WebS Method specification at its 0.9 level.
5 minApproval of Contribution of the DID WebS Spec to the KERI Suite Working GroupChairsDECISION: The TSWG approves contributing the approved DID WebS Method specification to the new KERI Suite Working Group.
5 minApproval of closing the DID WebS Task ForceChairsDECISION: The TSWG shall close the DID WebS Method Task Force as its work is moving to the new KERI Suite Working Group.
2 minApproval of closing the X.509 VID Task Force
DECISION: The TSWG shall close the X.509 VID  Task Force as it is being replaced by the new High Assurance VIDs Task Force.
5 minApproval of the new High Assurance VIDs Task Force (HAVTF)ChairsDECISION: The TSWG approves the formation of the new High Assurance VIDs Task Force.
2 minMoving the next TSWG Plenary meeting from Oct 29 to Nov 5ChairsThe next regularly scheduled TSWG Plenary meeting would be on Oct 29, but that falls on the first day of Internet Identity Workshop #39. So we propose to move it to the same time on the following Tuesday, Nov 5.
1 minTSWG IPR ChangeChairs

The chairs are working to prepare to transition the intellectual property rights (IPR) licensing terms for the TSWG back to the original IPR license choices (Copyright = Creative Commons Attribution 4.0, Patent = W3C Patent License, Source = Apache 2.0). We are working with the leadership of the new KERI Suite Working Group to find shared licensing terms for the Trust Spanning Protocol Specification.

Stay tuned for an email update and potential email voting period on this transition.

Reach out to Judith if there are any questions


  • Review decisions/action items
  • Planning for next meeting 
Chairs

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