Time

Agenda Item

Lead

Notes

3 min

• Start recording

• Welcome & antitrust notice

• Introduction of new members

• Agenda review

Chairs

• Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.

• New Members: None.

15 min

General announcements

All

Updates from TSWG members of general interest to the group.

• Highlights of particular interest from Internet Identity Workshop #36 last week in Mountain View, CA.

• Mathieu

  • OID4VC has received a lot of attention and momentum. EU mention. OIDC realm is pushing it.

    • ToIP should be considering how OID4VC fits into the ToIP model(s).

  • Digital Trust in Age of AI - ChatGPT, deepfakes...

  • SPAC - security, privacy, authenticity and privacy - Sam Smith did daily sessions.

  • Trust Registries - lots of sessions

  • KERI popular

• Phil F

  • AI - Eric Coalition for Content Provenance and Authenticity - signing content of different media types. Existing tech (X.509)

    • https://c2pa.org  (LF/JDF project) - Adobe, Intel, BBC, MS, Sony, etc.

Eric: Raised "frankly" app is showing the path. https://www.frankliapp.com/

2 min

Review of action items from the previous meeting

Chairs

25 min

Task Force Reports

TF Leads

Technology Architecture TF — @Wenjing Chu  @Drummond Reed

• Work continues on the ToIP Glossary Workspace — it is now probably 85% complete. Drummond's contributions will taper off the month of May due to the spring conference season, so full completion may need to wait until June. But there will be a Terminology Workshop in the Trust Spanning Protocol TF on May 3 (see below).

• Good feedback on TAS requirements is coming from the Trust Spanning Protocol TF. That process is also likely to continue into June.

• Work continues on developing a third-generation conceptual ToIP stack diagram.

• Tooling (github) being worked on.

Trust Registry TF — @Andor @Antti Kettunen  @Darrell O'Donnell

•  EU comparisons

  • EUDI ARF - https://www.intesigroup.com/en/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2023/02/ARF_v100_for_publication_SqMV8FwSeE3xg7teicYY4hFDY_93678.pdf

  • TRAIN (TRust mAnagement INfrastructure) is here: https://essif-lab.eu/essif-train-by-fraunhofer-gesellschaft/

  • ACTION: Open Banking registries (jurisdiction by jurisdiction) - good Trust Registry examples that are operational.

  • ACTION: OpenID Federation Spec - similar goals. @Dima Postnikov  will look at.

Trust Spanning Protocol TF — @Drummond Reed @Wenjing Chu @Sam Smith (@Daniel Hardman Emeritus)

• @Daniel Hardman will be stepping back to Emeritus status due to his workload.

• Two TSP Workshops have been held, both very productive in driving towards key design decisions.

• A third TSP Workshop is planned for Thursday May 4.

• @Oskar van Deventer and TNO have offered to host a Terminology Design Workshop for the TSPTF during our NA/EU meeting time on May 3. This should be an excellent lesson in developing/refining the terminology we need.

ACDC TF — @Sam Smith @Philip Feairheller 

• no update - IIW-ismation dominated.

AI & Metaverse (AIM) Technology TF — @Wenjing Chu @Vikas Malhotra 

• Identity is dominating aspect

  • Avatar behaviour over time is a giveaway (recognizable) - 

  • Dan "biometrics" Bachenheimer - how do we meet the needs (e.g. age limits, financial txns) (have/are/know)

  • ACTION: Dan to schedule some time about how the biometrics world is looking at this.  Binding is critical - but being prescriptive/descriptive 

    • LoA - EUDI "high" 2+ of 3 factors (have/are/know)

10 min

New proposed Credential Exchange Protocol Comparison Task Force

@mathieu 

Mathieu will present his proposed charter for this task force to produce a comparison guide to existing protocols for exchange of verifiable credentials. → Credential Exchange Protocol Comparison Task Force

• decision matrix - answering "what's the best?" - for what?

• Kudra, Torsten and Paul Bastian etc.- did similar work on credential comparisons formats in Rebooting the Web of Trust (11) - https://github.com/WebOfTrustInfo/rwot11-the-hague/blob/master/draft-documents/credential-profile-comparison.md 

• Aries, OID4VC, ISO 18013-5, and VC API communities are interested.

• Assuming Approval:

  • ACTION: @mathieu to coordinate meeting times - considering existing meetings (including DIF perhaps). Michelle can assist here including getting a "join ToIP" link for email. 

  • ACTION: BLOG (by Friday, 2023-04-28) to get it out before EIC if desired.

  • ACTION: @Daniel Bachenheimer will see if he can share internal (Accenture) analysis that is similar.

• input from Tim - Standard Council of Canada Digital Credentials https://www.scc.ca/en/flagship/digital-credentials 

  • particularly for conformity.

• APAC - https://www.lfph.io/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Verifiable-Credentials-Flavors-Explained.pdf

  • Kaliya led this.

From TAS Efforts - early draft:

Open

5 min

• Review decisions/action items

• Planning for next meeting 

Chairs