2023-03-29 TSWG Meeting Notes

2023-03-29 TSWG Meeting Notes

Meeting Date

  • Mar 29, 2023 The TSWG holds plenary meetings once every four weeks on Wednesdays. The 2023 meeting dates are Jan 4, Feb 1, Mar 1, Mar 29, Apr 26, May 24, Jun 21, Jul 19, Aug 16, Sep 13, Oct 11, Nov 8, Dec 6.

  • Two meetings are held each Wednesday to accommodate global time zones:

    • NA/EU Meeting: 08:00-09:00 PT / 16:00-17:00 UTC

    • APAC Meeting: 18:00-19:00 PT / 02:00-03:00 UTC

  • See the ToIP Calendar for all meeting dates, times and logistics, including Zoom links.

Zoom Meeting Recording

Attendees

NA/EU:

  • @Darrell O'Donnell 

  • @Drummond Reed

  • @Wenjing Chu 

  • @Daniel Bachenheimer 

  • @Antti Kettunen 

  • @Andor 

  • @Tim Bouma 

  • @Neil Thomson 

  • @Steve McCown 

  • @Sam Smith 

  • @SUMABALA NAIR 

APAC:

  • @Darrell O'Donnell 

  • @Drummond Reed

  • @Dima Postnikov 

  • Steven Mugisha Mizero

Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)

Time

Agenda Item

Lead

Notes

3 min

  • Start recording

  • Welcome & antitrust notice

  • Introduction of new members

  • Agenda review

Chairs

  • Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.

  • New Members:

    • Clare Nelson is the new Executive Director of the Decentralized Identity Foundation (DIF).

5 min

General announcements

All

Updates from TSWG members of general interest to the group.

  • Clare mentioned that some major announcements are coming from DIF member companies. She said she's on a constant search for production use cases, especially those who are willing to make a guest blog post about it.

2 min

Review of action items from the previous meeting

Chairs

ACTION ITEM: @Drummond Reed and @Neil Thomson to put together a video tutorial for how to use terms wikis.

ACTION: @Drummond Reed to start a thread in the TATF Github Discussions to begin discussion of developing a third-generation version of the conceptual diagram of the ToIP stack that will be consistent with the ToIP Technology Architecture Specification V1.0

ACTION: @Drummond Reed to start a Google Slides deck for contributors to contribute suggestions for the third-generation version.

25 min

Task Force Reports

TF Leads

Technology Architecture TF@Wenjing Chu  @Drummond Reed

  • Drummond reported that there is has been some good asynchronous progress on the three major action items left (glossary, revised conceptual diagram, use cases). Two of them are on our agenda today.

  • We are also seeing just what we predicted: the most important feedback on ToIP Technology Architecture Specification (TAS) requirements is coming from our own TFs — primarily the Trust Registry TF and the Trust Spanning Protocol TF.

  • So we will most likely want both of them to get to the Working Draft stage and see if they have any further feedback on the TAS requirements before we finalize it.

Trust Registry TF@Andor @Antti Kettunen  @Darrell O'Donnell

  • Darrell explained that the TF has made several key decisions, starting with an objective statement that focuses on the definition of the Trust Registry Protocol. Other discussions, such as trust decision models, are going to be deferred.

  • The TF is now working on the logical model and a Swagger API definition.

  • Great collaboration with DIF members including @Sam Curren and @Andor. Good alignment.

Trust Spanning Protocol TF@Drummond Reed @Daniel Hardman @Wenjing Chu @Sam Smith 

  • @Daniel Hardman shared that have just finished the proposal stage (the "preliminary input stage") and are about to enter the consolidation stage.

  • Six meetings have been dedicated to four proposals.

  • The Github discussions have been extremely in-depth and detailed — enough so that it is difficult for all TSPTF members to follow all of it.

  • The next major step is consolidation of the proposals: how we will figure out alignment between the protocols. We anticipate this will involve a lot of whiteboarding and discussion of tradeoffs.

  • The goal of this stage will be to have rough consensus on the design of the protocol.

  • Daniel is hoping that we will have a full draft by the Fall 2023 IIW.

  • @Sam Smith shared that there are a lot of issues that are so meaty that they require in-depth Github discussion. But what they really require for resolution is extended workshops.

  • We anticipate we will need some longer "TSP Workshops" and are planning those now.

  • @Judith Fleenor (Deactivated) advocated having as much discussion at IIW as possible.

ACDC TF — @Sam Smith @Philip Feairheller 

  • @Sam Smith said that the TF continues to work with the W3C Verifiable Credential Data Model 2.0 WG.

  • The TF is also working to advance the KERI, CESR, and ACDC specs at IETF in San Francisco in late July.

  • Any supporters are urged to attend the BOF that will be held there.

  • 20-30 people are attending the bi-weekly meetings. The ACDC ecosystem is growing beyond GLEIF.

AI & Metaverse (AIM) Technology TF@Wenjing Chu @Vikas Malhotra 

15 min

ToIP Glossary Workspace Report

@Drummond Reed 

We have made great strides in developing the ToIP Glossary Workspace as a Google doc, with thanks to contributions from @Neil Thomson and @Christine Martin.

Drummond explain why we are taking this approach, showed how the ToIP Glossary Workspace works, and requested review and input from TSWG members.

The goal is to have a complete first draft ToIP Glossary before the start of the Internet Identity Workshop on April 18. Drummond plans to hold at least one session on it there.

10 min

Updating our conceptual diagram of the ToIP stack

@Drummond Reed 

Drummond reported on the action item coming from the ToIP Technology Architecture Specification V1.0 specification for us to create a third-generation version of our conceptual diagram.

The slide deck for proposals has been created here. Please contribution your suggestions!

ACTION: ALL TSWG MEMBERS — please contribute your suggestions for the third-generation conceptual diagram of the ToIP stack to this Google Slides deck.

 

  • Review decisions/action items

  • Planning for next meeting 

Chairs

Our next TSWG Plenary meeting will be April 26.

Decisions

None

Action Items

ACTION: @Drummond Reed to start a thread in the TATF Github Discussions to begin discussion of this Google Slides deck for developing a third-generation version of the conceptual diagram of the ToIP stack that will be consistent with the ToIP Technology Architecture Specification V1.0
ACTION: ALL TSWG MEMBERS — please contribute your suggestions for the third-generation conceptual diagram of the ToIP stack to this Google Slides deck.