2023-09-11 CTWG Meeting Notes

Meeting Date

  • The CTWG meets bi-weekly on Mondays at 10:00-11:00 PT / 17:00-18:00 UTC. See the ToIP Calendar for the full schedule.

Zoom Meeting Recording

Attendees

Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)

TimeAgenda ItemLeadNotes
3 min
  • Start recording
  • Welcome & antitrust notice
  • Introduction of new members
  • Agenda review
Chairs
  • Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.
  • New Members: Kim(berly) Nguyen is user experience designer, in BC gov. She joined later in the call.
5 minGeneral announcementsAll

Any news and updates of general interest to CTWG members

  • Drummond is not able to attend today's meeting, but has been working on the ToIP Glossary Workspace. He did not make the progress he hoped during our August break but is still intent on completing a first version this month.
  • Neil Thomson on Mental Models.
    • From an ecosystem governance perspective. Scott Perry has a model where Jurisdictions define legislation, which defines regulations (which may be driven by standards), which then define regulation accreditation agencies, which qualify auditing agencies, which employ auditors (primarily of (ecosystem) governance).
      • There is a companion document which establishes the mental model of how a chain of authoritative agents/agencies and Roles (to which a human is assigned) within those agencies can use VCs to delegate authority to an organization, agency which can delegate farther down the chain through VC back Roles signing VCs which formalize the delegation (simpler to understand in the model diagram).
    • The Trust Spanning Layer (Sam Smith, Wenjin Chiu) is defining structural and communication/protocol models and how Parties in comms/protocol interact.
    • I'm working on a model of what I'm calling a "Trust establishment model & workflow" which provides the ability of two Parties to use a trust exchange protocol to establish trust between the parties for a given context/transaction/interaction.  
    • Initial models (will need to abstract to mental models) are being worked with the DIF Hospitality SIG/ToIP Attraction Pass WG/TF for general travel and event ticketing (decentralized, trustified) travel models from the perspective of the major parties/actors (travellers, travel/ticketing agencies) and a comprehensive portable travel(er) profile  
2 minReview of previous action itemsChairs
15 minUpdates on the Terminology Engine V2Rieks Joosten 

Brian Richter has been looking at TNO's TRRT tool but hasn't been able to get some real work done regarding the HRGT - other (higher priority) stuff keeps popping up. Brian is skipping this meeting and intends to spend that time on work.

Rieks Joosten has returned from holidays only today, and isn't up to speed yet with the current development status of TNO work related to TEv2.

20 minUpdates on TNO Terminology Design workRieks Joosten 

In the last couple of weeks, two (or three) sessions have been conducted by colleagues of Rieks Joosten to see how the 'game' called 'Concept Quest' should be played. Rieks has not yet learned what the results thereof have been.

10 minAny other businessAllWe talked about definitions, criteria and terms (getting Nicky up to speed again and acquainting Kim with some of the CTWG work), and the Concept Quest game that TNO is developing to help people help themselves and others to devise criteria that can be used in definitions.
5 mins
  • Review decisions/action items
  • Planning for next meeting 
Chairs
  • ACTION: Rieks Joosten to provide a (preliminary?) description of the Concept Quest game.
  • ACTION: Neil Thomson to rewrite second point in 'General Announcements' to better reflect what he had to say (Rieks can't take notes and listen at the same time).
  • ACTION: Drummond Reed will look for sets of questions about clusters of terms in the ToIP Glossary Workspace that may be candidates for mental models.

Decisions

  • None

Action Items

  • ACTION: Rieks Joosten to provide a (preliminary?) description of the Concept Quest game.
  • ACTION: Neil Thomson to rewrite second point in 'General Announcements' to better reflect what he had to say (Rieks can't take notes and listen at the same time).
  • ACTION: Drummond Reed will look for sets of questions about clusters of terms in the ToIP Glossary Workspace that may be candidates for mental models.