Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)
Time
Agenda Item
Lead
Notes
5 min
Start recording
Welcome & antitrust notice
Introduction of new members
Agenda review
Chairs
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New Members:
5 min
Announcements
TF Lead
5 min
Task Force Updates
Chairs
Drummond Reed will update on the Governance Architecture TF i.e. it is going to revise its charter for 2025
The Governance Stack Working Group had a meeting to discuss nominees for the Trust Over IP steering committee. Here is a list of the people who were nominated:
John Phillips nominated himself.
Scott Perry was nominated by Drummond Reed.
Steven Milstein asked Scott Perry to nominate him.
Drummond Reed was nominated by Carly Huitema in the Ecosystem working group.
Carly Huitema was nominated by Scott Perry and Judith Fleenor for the work she has done.
Kyle was nominated by Bree Blazicevic but she suggested there might be people ahead of him for the nomination.
Bree Blazicevic was nominated by Judith Fleenor.
John Jordan was suggested as a possible nominee by Carly Huitema, but it is unclear if he is interested.
Neil Thomson allowed his name to be put on the list.
Wendy Seltzer was also invited to be nominated, but said she would think about it and get back to Judith Fleenor.
It was noted that anyone on the call was welcome to be nominated. Judith Fleenor stated that she would check in with everyone whose name was put forward to make sure they accepted the nomination.
There are 13-15 positions to be filled on the steering committee.
10 min
Heads up on the DICE conference in Zurich March 4-5
Drummond Reed brought up the DICE (Digital Identity unConference Europe) conference, which will be held on March 4th and 5th in Zurich. He suggested that the Governance Stack Working Group should have a strong presence there.
Some information about the DICE conference:
The theme is "ecosystems, and how to build them quickly and successfully".
It is held twice a year, similar to the Internet Identity Workshop (IIW).
It is facilitated by the same team as the IIW.
The last DICE conference had almost 250 people.
It is held at a venue called Trust Square, which is smaller than the Computer History Museum.
Drummond feels that the conference is relevant to the Governance Stack Working Group because it is focused on building ecosystems quickly and successfully. He believes that governance is just as important as technical interoperability when building these ecosystems.
A recap of the IIW session on First Person Credentials and how a governance framework for this new social proof of personhood ecosystem might evolve.
The concept of First-Person Credentials was discussed during a session at the Internet Identity Workshop (IIW). This approach centres around a social graph model for establishing proof of personhood, a concept that has garnered increasing attention due to the rise of AI and concerns about bots.
Here are some key insights:
Distinguishing Personhood from Identity: The focus of First-Person Credentials is on verifying that an individual is a real person, as opposed to a bot or AI, without necessarily disclosing their full identity. This distinction is crucial because traditional identity credentials can be complex and raise numerous privacy concerns.
"Not a Bot" Credential: Eve Maler refers to personhood credentials as "not a bot" credentials, highlighting their potential value in combating the growing presence of AI deepfakes and ensuring genuine human interaction online.
Social Graph Approach: First-Person Credentials rely on a social graph model where individuals establish verifiable relationships with each other. Jonathan Raybeck's sequence diagram illustrates this process, demonstrating how Alice and Bob can issue such credentials to each other using pairwise DIDs.
Addressing Bot Concerns: The sources acknowledge the challenge of ensuring that bots don't exploit this system by issuing credentials to each other. The proposed solution involves establishing a "root of trust" that individuals must connect to, potentially through a network of trusted entities. This is where the work of the Governance Stack Working Group, which focuses on developing governance frameworks, becomes crucial.
Zero-Knowledge Proof for Privacy: Zero-Knowledge Proof (ZKP) plays a vital role in First-Person Credentials, ensuring unlinkability and privacy preservation. This allows individuals to prove their personhood without revealing their identity or linking their actions across different platforms.
Benefits Beyond Bot Detection: While preventing bot activity is a primary driver, First-Person Credentials have broader implications. They can be used for content provenance, ensuring that information originates from a genuine human source. This is particularly relevant to initiatives like Adobe's Content Authenticity Initiative.
Drummond highlighted the emerging significance of First-Person Credentials as a potential solution for proving personhood in a digital world increasingly populated by AI. However, establishing robust governance frameworks will be essential to ensure the integrity and trustworthiness of this approach.
5 min
Any other business
5 min
Review decisions/action items
Planning for the next meeting
Meeting Notes
Action Items
Scott Perry will create a list of nominees with names, email addresses and a sentence about each person for Judith to facilitate the voting process next week. [1]
Judith Fleenor will check in with each nominee to ensure they accept their nomination.
Bree will check in with Kyle to validate whether he wants to be nominated.
Judith Fleenor will talk to John later in the afternoon about how BC Gov will interface with Trust over IP in the future.
Neil Thomson will track down Ben Moskowitz's slides from the VRN day presentation and send them to Drummond.