2024-04-10 TSPTF Meeting Notes

Meeting Date & Time

This Task Force meets every Wednesday. There are two meetings to serve different time zones:

  • NA/EU meeting: 08:00-09:00 PT / 15:00-16:00 UTC
  • APAC meeting: 18:00-19:00 PT / 01:00-02:00 UTC

See the Calendar of ToIP Meetings for exact meeting dates, times and Zoom links.

Zoom Meeting Links / Recordings

NOTE: These Zoom meeting links will be replaced by links to recordings of the meetings once they are available (usually by the end of the day of the meeting).

Attendees

NA/EU:

APAC:

Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)

TimeAgenda ItemLeadNotes
3 min
  • Start recording
  • Welcome & antitrust notice
  • New member introductions
  • Agenda review
Chairs
  • Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.
  • New Members: None.
2 minReview of previous action itemsChairs
  • ACTION: Darrell O'Donnell to create a Spec-Up issue concerning external specifications.
  • ACTION: Drummond Reed to create a second draft of the blog post here announcing the TSP Implementers Draft and post the link to Slack and to email for review by TSPTF members before our April 10 meeting.
20 minsReview Implementers Draft Blog PostDrummond Reed We will review the complete second draft of the blog post to gather any additional feedback before it is published on the ToIP blog tomorrow or Friday.
15 minsPrepare for TSP Sessions at Internet Identity Workshop

Which sessions do we want to hold on what days—and who is planning to call them?

  1. Wenjing Chu plans to call a session on the Implementers Draft itself.
  2. Wenjing Chu also plans to call a session on the Rust implementation, including a demo to show something in action. This session will also discuss language bindings.
    1. Eric Scouten noted that one of his teammates, Gavin Peacock, specializes in that for the C2PA and CAI project.
    2. This session could also touch on consent and transports.
  3. Sam Smith is planning a session on CESR 2.0.
  4. Sam Smith could also do a session on the Python implementation.
  5. Eric Scouten will be calling several session on C2PA.
  6. Wenjing Chu would like to call a session about use cases for TSP & C2PA (note the AI & Metaverse Task Force meeting at 9AM PT).
  7. Judith Fleenor plans to hold an Introduction to ToIP session using our 3G diagram of the ToIP Trust Canvas, including showing where specific specs "sit".
  8. Philip Feairheller and the ACDC TF will be doing their "20 Day Huddle" on the 3 released specifications.
  9. APAC: We discussed calling a session about how to bridge X.509 certificates and DIDs/VIDs by writing a spec that standardizes how to create that bridge by putting a DID/VID in the Subject Alternative Name field of the cert and publishing a reference to the cert in the corresponding DID document.

Judith noted that we should also be reaching out to attract other implementers.

Wenjing noted that there is a strong case for wallet implementations to implement TSP.

Judith also encouraged us to think ahead about implementers beyond IIW and our immediate community.

15 minsOpen Issues & Reminder to Turn On GitHub DiscussionsWenjing Chu 

We agreed there were not any critical pre-announcement open issues. Wenjing will try to add a few more minor issues on his list.

Also, thank you to Philip Feairheller and Kevin Griffin for turning on GitHub Discussions on the TSP repo.


APAC Call: Task Force UpdatesEric Scouten 

X5VTF: We discussed an existential question about an X.509 DID method(s). The question has been whether there is core use case for the use of X.509 VIDs in a content authenticity universe.

Jo Spencer suggested that the X.509 / DID / VID topic is one that should be discussed with CAs.

TRTF: Darrell O'Donnell said that there is some attention going into the TRP review.

TATF: Drummond Reed ...

AIMTF: Daniel Bachenheimer discussed the different types of use cases that will need to be covered in order to prove authenticity in an AI context.

Did:webs TF: Jo Spencer brought up a new alternative to the KERI-related complexity of did:webs called did:tdw (trustedweb). That new variation on did:web will be presented at IIW.

ACDC: The three specs are all in public review—see this blog post. Especially CESR.

TSPTF: We reviewed the draft blog post and added several more comments.


5 mins
  • Review decisions/action items
  • Planning for next meeting 
ChairsREMINDER: NO MEETING NEXT WEEK due to IIW.

Decisions

  • None

Action Items