Meeting Date & Time

31 Jan 2024 This Task Force meets every Wednesday. There are two meetings to serve different time zones:

NA/EU meeting: 08:00-09:00 PT / 16:00-17:00 UTC
APAC meeting: 18:00-19:00 PT / 02:00-03:00 UTC

See the Calendar of ToIP Meetings for exact meeting dates, times and Zoom links.

Zoom Meeting Recordings

Attendees

NA/EU:

Wenjing Chu

APAC:

Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)

Time	Agenda Item	Lead	Notes
3 min	Start recording Welcome & antitrust notice New member introductions Agenda review	Chairs	Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role. New Members:
2 min	Review of previous action items	Chairs	ACTION: ALL TSPTF members to review the proposed Specification Template Task Force charter and post any feedback to the wiki page or to the TSWG2 mailing list.
10 mins	Term for VID-to-VID directed graph edge	Drummond Reed	See this GitHub discussion and also diagram #1 below. This resulted in a long discussion on the NA/EU call, much of which was subsequently captured in posts to the GitHub discussion thread. On the APAC call, the final conclusion was reflected in diagram #2 below and in this decision, proposed by Ed Eykholt: DECISION: At least through the Implementers Draft, in the TSP spec, we will continue to use the term "relationship" or "VID relationship" when referring to the VID-to-VID graph edge (in a graph theory sense). We will continue to test that terminology to see if any adjustment or additional terms (such as those related to the concept "sessions") are needed. ACTION: Drummond Reed to draft a callout paragraph for the spec that explains why we are using the term "relationship" and not "connection" or "channel".
10 mins	Diagram of TSP Routed Encrypted Message Through Intermediaries	Ed Eykholt	See this diagram (also copied as screenshot #3 below) that Ed created to help him understand the section of the Working Draft titled TSP Routed Encrypted Message Through Intermediaries. On both the NA/EU and APAC calls, we had an extensive discussion about this diagram and the "routing" concepts it represents. Everyone agreed that it helped deepen our understanding of how "routing" worked. Wenjing Chu noted that the term "routing" is almost misleading because the concept of routing in TSP is very different than it is in Internet routing. Drummond Reed suggested that this might mean we should put another callout in the spec On the APAC call, Tahoe Blue asked how routes are discovered. Wenjing Chu gave a basic explanation but Jeff was not satisfied. ACTION: Tahoe Blue to review the Working Draft to determine if his question is answered by the routing section. If not, he will either: a) start a Github discussion thread about his question, and/or b) bring it to the agenda of next week's meeting.
30 mins	Working Draft Feedback Review	Wenjing Chu Sam Smith	Continue review of feedback on the Working Draft. NA/EU: We were able to review comments between sections 3 and 6. APAC: We ran out of time to do any spec comment review.
5 mins	Review decisions/action items Planning for next meeting	Chairs	IMPORTANT: The TSPTF, Trust Registry TF, and X.509 VID TF all need to coordinate on which agenda we will use for the combined APAC meetings on Wednesdays 18:00-19:00 PT / Thursday 02:00-03:00 UTC.
	APAC CONSOLIDATED MEETING NOTES
5 mins	Trust Registry Task Force	Darrell O'Donnell	Major work conducted on moving specification over to `spec-up` : github repository: https://github.com/trustoverip/tswg-trust-registry-protocol github.io Pages - rendered specification (github Actions build this): https://trustoverip.github.io/tswg-trust-registry-protocol/ QUICK spec-up primer - Live Demo/Discussion MAIN LINK to learn spec-up: https://identity.foundation/spec-up/ WORK/ASSISTANCE: Definitions Requirements Readability/Editing Swagger

Screenshots/Diagrams (numbered for reference in notes above)

#1

#2

#3

Decisions

DECISION: At least through the Implementers Draft, in the TSP spec, we will continue to use the term "relationship" or "VID relationship" when referring to the VID-to-VID graph edge (in a graph theory sense). We will continue to test that terminology to see if any adjustment or additional terms (such as those related to the concept "sessions") are needed.

Action Items

ACTION: Drummond Reed to draft a callout paragraph for the spec that explains why we are using the term "relationship" and not "connection" or "channel".
ACTION: Tahoe Blue to review the Working Draft to determine if his question is answered by the routing section. If not, he will either: a) start a Github discussion thread about his question, and/or b) bring it to the agenda of next week's meeting.

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2024-01-31 TSPTF Meeting Notes