Time

Agenda Item

Lead

Notes

3 min

• Start recording

• Welcome & antitrust notice

• Introduction of new members

• Agenda review

Chairs

• Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.

• New Members: none

5 min

General announcements

All

Any news and updates of general interest to CTWG members

• Neil: Input and Semantics WG is winding down. Notice Consent, Privacy and Risk, and Storage & Portability Task Forces are being reconsidered. N&C will go to governance.  Data Agreements are central.  What are the rules of consent? Do we need mental models for that? How would generic data exchange work? How about traceability, signing, etc.? 

• Nicky: continuing guinea pig activities. First, started templates on governance framework glossary (as one of the controlled docs). GA-TF seems to take a different approach. There may not be too much utility for glossary-related work at present. Second, SSI harms paper (TF of Human Experience WG). Embedded in that is mental model of harms, but needs more thought. Key concepts start to emerge from the thinking. 'Decisions' may be one of them.

• Rieks:

  • terminology work is finding its ways outside of ToIP as well, and not just within TNO.

  • Work is progressing on what provisionally is called QDX (Qualified Data eXchange), which is a way of thinking about how parties design and operate their information processes, focusing on how they can (i) request and obtain data that is valid for specific kinds of processing, (ii) securely store such data, and (iii) provide this data to others (in terms of syntax, semantics, assurances and provisioning criteria).

  • eIDAS 2 is very hot in (specific parts of) Europe. TNO is following some of the discussions, and participates in a few of them. 

2 min

Review of previous action items

Chairs

10 min

Next steps on proposed Mental Models TF

@Rieks Joosten 

• @Judith Fleenor (Deactivated) sent out the all-members bulletin that gauged interest in the Mental Models Task Force. Feedback/responses haven't been received. Perhaps we miss something here as today is the Hyperledger Summit where many of us participate.

• @Neil Thomson Let's standardize on a tool, e.g. like the eSSIF-Lab stuff. @Rieks Joosten explained that it's more a method than a tool (he uses powerpoint for the diagrams...). We may want to consider writing up how that's done there; perhaps that could be a first deliverable of a MMTF if it were to start.

30 min

What work is being done in WGs/TFs

@Rieks Joosten

Terminological work (building glossaries) is being done by various people, WGs and TFs. How do we want/need to be kept informed, and how to setup and maintain relations? This point was not discussed (except under general announcements).

10 min

Review progress on the Terminology Toolbox 2.0

@Rieks Joosten @Sid Haniff 

• progress on the MRG tool: Development of MRG generator is complete as per the demo at last week’s dev meeting
  Need to create 1) a Docker file and 2) documentation for install and use and then ready for Rieks to user test.

• outlook for progress on other tools. None at this point in time.

5 mins

• Review decisions/action items

• Planning for next meeting 

Chairs

• Suggestion to skip Sept 26th as that is RWOT that both @Drummond Reed and @Rieks Joosten attend. This will be decided through a slack discussion.