2022-08-15 CTWG Meeting Notes

Meeting Date

  • The CTWG meets bi-weekly on Mondays at 10:00-11:00 PT / 17:00-18:00 UTC. See the ToIP Calendar for the full schedule.

Zoom Meeting Link / Recording

Attendees

Main Goal of this Meeting

1) Introduce Neil Thomson, 2) Check on progress of the ACDC terms wiki, 3) Review progress on the Terminology Toolbox 2.0, 4) Next steps on potential Mental Models TF.

Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)

TimeAgenda ItemLeadNotes
3 min
  • Start recording
  • Welcome & antitrust notice
  • Introduction of new members
  • Agenda review
Chairs
  • Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.
  • New Members:
5 minGeneral announcementsAll

Any news and updates of general interest to CTWG members

  • Neil Thomson has a background in business intelligence and analytics market. At ToIP he has been involved with the Inputs and Semantics WG (soon to become the Data Representation or Data Modeling WG). He notes that terminology is a constant battle in these areas.
    • He noted that there is a lot of talk about data containers, but most of the world is dealing with streaming data where data is "in a pipe".
2 minReview of previous action itemsChairs
  • ACTION: Drummond Reed to connect Neil Thomson with Rieks Joosten to discuss the ToIP Technology Architecture Specification glossary needs and the Terminology Toolbox 2.0 work.
  • ACTION:  Drummond Reed to work with Nicky Hickman on an outreach message for this coming Wednesday's All-Member Meeting for a Mental Models Task Force to focus on leveraging mental models within and outside ToIP. 
  • ACTION: Drummond Reed will notify Elisa Trevino to remove the Aug 1 and 29 meetings.
10 minReview progress on the ACDC terms wikiHenk van Cann 
20 minReview progress on the Terminology Toolbox 2.0
  • Sid Haniff reported that there is a now a working version of the tool that can grab definitions and can create a machine-readable glossary.
  • Rieks Joosten is looking at changing the definitions of some of the CTWG terms that will result in the need to update the tool. He hopes to get those revisions sorted out this week.
  • Rieks said that the documentation of the Terminology Toolbox 2.0 is coming along.
  • One open issue is how the glossary generator can be configured to produce different human-readable glossary documents. Rieks said that once we have a way of doing that, then we can not only generate different representations of a glossary, but also be able to produce dictionaries, which can present multiple definitions of the same term.
  • ACTION: Rieks Joosten to update Sid Haniff with any revisions to the Terminology Toolbox 2.0 documentation that would affect development.

Drummond brought up the pending "customers" of the Terminology Toolbox 2.0, specifically the ACDC glossary and the ToIP Technology Architecture Specification glossary.

  • Neil Thomson discussed the need to be able to see examples of how a term is used.
  • Rieks shared screenshot #1 (below) to show examples of how a Markdown document can be marked up to include links to definitions inline—and soon including pop-ups.
  • Neil and Drummond agreed that the Technology Architecture Task Force will work closely with the CTWG and the Terminology Toolbox 2.0 team to ensure that the glossary is a full test of the Terminology Toolbox 2.0 team.
  • We also discussed how the Terminology Toolbox 2.0 could be used by other orgs like the Decentralized Identity Foundation. Rieks noted that it would be ideal if folks from DIF would like to contribute new tools to the Toolbox.
  • We agreed that the highest priority for the Terminology Toolbox 2.0 is to convert terms wikis into human-readable glossaries.
    • Sid noted that currently several of the terms wikis are using slightly different formats in their terms wiki pages (e.g., different headings).
    • Rieks hoped that the tool framework could add new scraping tools.
  • The second priority is to create different forms of human-readable 
  • The third priority is the "term-ref resolution tool" (TRRT). Rieks showed an example of how the TRRT works.
10 minNext steps on proposed Mental Models TFRieks Joosten 
  • Rieks Joosten added a paragraph to the Bulletin that Judith is sending out this week asking for others who are interested in the Mental Models Task Force.
5 minsSeptember scheduleDrummond Reed 

Reminder that we are not meeting on Aug 29.

Drummond will be at the Linux Foundation Open Source Summit at our Sept 12 meeting, so Rieks will need to chair that meeting.

ACTION: Rieks Joosten will chair the agenda for the Sept 12 CTWG meeting.

5 mins
  • Review decisions/action items
  • Planning for next meeting 
Chairs

Screenshots/Diagrams (numbered for reference in notes above)

#1

#2

Decisions

  • None

Action Items

  • ACTION: Rieks Joosten to update Sid Haniff with any revisions to the Terminology Toolbox 2.0 documentation that would affect development.
  • ACTION: Rieks Joosten will chair the agenda for the Sept 12 CTWG meeting.