2023-06-21 TSWG Meeting Notes
Meeting Date
- The TSWG holds plenary meetings once every four weeks on Wednesdays. The 2023 meeting dates are Jan 4, Feb 1, Mar 1, Mar 29, Apr 26, May 24, Jun 21, Jul 19, Aug 16, Sep 13, Oct 11, Nov 8, Dec 6.
- Two meetings are held each Wednesday to accommodate global time zones:
- NA/EU Meeting: 08:00-09:00 PT / 16:00-17:00 UTC
- APAC Meeting: 18:00-19:00 PT / 02:00-03:00 UTC
- See the ToIP Calendar for all meeting dates, times and logistics, including Zoom links.
Zoom Meeting Link / Recording
- NA/EU: https://zoom.us/rec/share/mlcISeZj8grzza5AYBVIPXwhOO4P-l_PtALeDP1hu5miAz941dRomUKyJvvr4HFQ.QTNYpyblvTQQQPDS
- APAC: NO RECORDING (only 3 attendees so we had an informal conversation)
Attendees
NA/EU:
- Darrell O'Donnell
- Drummond Reed
- Antti Kettunen
- Tim Bouma
- Neil Thomson
- (attendee list is incomplete as we didn't have an assigned notetaker)
APAC:
Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)
Time | Agenda Item | Lead | Notes |
3 min |
| Chairs |
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5 min | General announcements | All | Updates from TSWG members of general interest to the group. mathieu announced that the Credential Exchange Protocols TF has started - see more notes below Tim Bouma shared an update on the progress of the Digital Governance Council - Conformity Assessment. Governments are becoming active and adoption is wide open. Andre Kudra shared an open letter from EFF and ~20 other civil society orgs about freedoms and privacy shortcomings in the EU Architecture Reference Framework (ARF) for the European Digital Identity Wallets initiative.
Judith Fleenor shared a reminder of the ToIP All Members meeting at 10am PT. |
2 min | Review of action items from the previous meeting | Chairs |
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20 min | Task Force Reports | TF Leads | Technology Architecture TF — Wenjing Chu Drummond Reed Report on the 3 remaining action items to reach the second public review draft:
Trust Registry TF — Andor Antti Kettunen Darrell O'Donnell
Trust Spanning Protocol TF — Drummond Reed Wenjing Chu Sam Smith
ACDC TF — Sam Smith Philip Feairheller
AI & Metaverse (AIM) Technology TF — Wenjing Chu
Credential Exchange Protocol TF - mathieu
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10 min | ToIP Stack Technical Trajectory | Darrell O'Donnell | Darrell shared a summary of how he sees the Trust Registry Protocol and the Trust Spanning Protocol progressing. See screenshot #1 below. Sam Smith shared that security, privacy, authenticity, and confidentiality are not independent properties, but are dependent upon each other, and that the tradeoffs are critical. So previous approaches that separate them into different layers and do not pay attention to the dependencies. |
10 min | Canonical Uses Cases for the ToIP Stack | Drummond Reed | See this new Google doc: Canonical Uses Cases for the ToIP Stack. Please provide feedback on these 25 use cases: Are they broadly representative of the many common trusted relationship management actions and trust tasks that the ToIP stack can be used for? Drummond noted that several new canonical use cases were added between the NA/EU and APAC meetings. |
5 mins | Revised TSWG Plenary and Trust Spanning Protocol TF Meeting Schedules | Drummond Reed | For the first half of 2023, we have tried a four-week cycle of meetings for the Wednesday 8AM Pacific Time meeting slot: 3 Trust Spanning Protocol TF meetings followed by one TSWG Plenary meeting. It has proved to be very confusing. Thus we propose to simplify things by:
DECISION: We will move the monthly TSWG Plenary meeting to a new time slot and dedicate the current time slot to the Trust Spanning Protocol Task Force meetings. Judith Fleenor suggested that Tuesday was most likely the best day. Drummond Reed agreed. ACTION: Drummond Reed and Darrell O'Donnell to look at the calendar and post a proposal for a new time slot for the monthly TSWG Plenary meeting. |
5 min |
| Chairs |
Screenshots/Diagrams (numbered for reference in notes above)
#1
Decisions
- DECISION: We will move the monthly TSWG Plenary meeting to a new time slot and dedicate the current time slot to the Trust Spanning Protocol Task Force meetings.
Action Items
- ACTION: Drummond Reed and Darrell O'Donnell to look at the calendar and post a proposal for a new time slot for the monthly TSWG Plenary meeting.