2023-09-06 TSPTF Meeting Notes

Owned by Drummond Reed
Last updated: Sept 08, 2023
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Meeting Date & Time

This Task Force meets every Wednesday. There are two meetings to serve different time zones:

  • NA/EU meeting: 08:00-09:00 PT / 15:00-16:00 UTC
  • APAC meeting: 18:00-19:00 PT / 01:00-02:00 UTC

See the Calendar of ToIP Meetings for exact meeting dates, times and Zoom links.

Zoom Meeting Recording

Attendees

NA/EU:

APAC:

Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)

TimeAgenda ItemLeadNotes
3 min
  • Start recording
  • Welcome & antitrust notice
  • New member introductions
  • Agenda review
Leads
  • Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.
  • New Members:
2 minReview of previous action itemsLeads
  • ACTION: Wenjing Chu, with the support of Sam Smith, Drummond Reed, and other TSPTF members, will prepare a first Working Draft for discussion beginning at the next meeting on 6 September 2023.
  • ACTION: Drummond Reed to request Michelle Janata to cancel the TSPTF meetings for the rest of August due to summer vacations, so that our next meetings will be on Wednesday 6 September.
20 minsReview of new "Seven Pillars" blog postLeads

On Tue Sept 4, the ToIP blog published Mid-Year Progress Report on the ToIP Trust Spanning Protocol. We reviewed the seven pillars of the design that the blog post covers:

  1. Verifiable Identifiers
  2. End-to-End Authenticity and Confidentiality
  3. Direct Connections (Inner and Outer Channels)
  4. Routing Via Intermediaries (Routing Channels)
  5. Relationship Context Channels
  6. Text and Binary Encoding
  7. Trust Task Protocol Framework

We agreed this represents a solid conclusion to the consolidation stage, and now we are ready to move into the Working Draft stage.

30 minsOutline and workplan for the Working DraftWenjing Chu 

Per the action item from the last meeting, Wenjing presented the Working Draft outline he prepared and together with his proposed workplan for completing an initial Public Review Draft in time to present at Internet Identity Workshop (Oct 10-12). See screenshots #1 thru #6 below.

We discussed the term "channel" and considered alternatives. Sam Smith suggested that we are layering "tunnels". 

Wenjing reminded everyone that these channels are very lightweight. Sam suggested we could use the modifier "virtual channels" when first defining the term.

Sam Smith reminded us that the inner channel can be used as a control protocol but also as a default interaction protocol. 

We also discussed serialization. Sam explained that CESR will support different types of transports, pipelining, and fragmentation.

We discussed the tradeoff between when an overall solution, such as fragmentation, needs to be built into the TSP or into a lower layer.

Lastly, we discussed GitHub repos and specification drafting formats/templates.

APAC:

Jo Spencer suggested that the TSP spec needs to include the lifecycle of a connection: things that happen during it, including external dependencies, errors, resync, etc.

ACTION: Kevin Griffin and Drummond Reed to arrange a meeting with Judith Fleenor, Darrell O'Donnell, and TSWG Task Force leads to drive to consensus on our GitHub repo management and spec template policies.

5 mins
  • Review decisions/action items
  • Planning for next meeting 
LeadsWe will continue to use each pair of Wednesday meetings to advance our Working Draft of Wenjing's proposed first spec document as far as we can between now and Internet Identity Workshop.

Screenshots/Diagrams (numbered for reference in notes above)

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#4

#5

#6

Decisions

  • None

Action Items