EFWG 2024-09-19 Integration of TSWG into Ecosystems
- Carly
Meeting Schedule
- Bi-Weekly at 8:00-9:00 am PDT / 11:00-12:00 am EDT / 15:00 – 16:00 UTC / 17:00 - 16:00 CEST
Attendees
Main Goal of this Meeting
A discussion about how technologies being developed at Trust over IP can be integrated into an ecosystem.
Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)
| Time | Agenda Item | Lead | Notes |
| 5 min |
| Chairs |
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| 1 min | Announcements | TF Leads | News or events of interest to EFWG members:
EFWG is starting again this September. Our meeting times are switching from what is on the calendar. We will meet this week, and again in two weeks and so on. The ToIP calendar has been updated. |
| 5 min | Review of action items from the previous meeting | Chairs | ... |
| 40 min | TSWG into Ecosystems | ||
| 5 min |
| Chairs |
Recording
Notes
https://gan.foundation/
You to Everyone 11:05 AM
https://gan.foundation/
You to Everyone 11:11 AM
https://lf-toip.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/HOME/pages/32079873/EFWG+2024-09-19+Integration+of+TSWG+into+Ecosystems
Judith Fleenor to Everyone 11:13 AM
Create you LFX ID here:
https://lfx.linuxfoundation.org/
Darrell O'Donnell to Everyone 11:13 AM
I’m on a train so will likely fall off soon. We could add GAN to the guest list at some point.
Trust Registry Query Protocol is definitely an ecosystem need.
Andor Kesselman to Everyone 11:14 AM
Just a small update: We’re picking up the cadence for meetings on moving TRQP forward to bi-weekly starting next week.
You to Everyone 11:15 AM
https://lf-toip.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/HOME/pages/22979737/Technology+Stack+Working+Group
Trust spanning protocol
Trust Registry Query Porotocl
Judith Fleenor to Everyone 11:17 AM
Keri Suite Working Group (KSWG) is ToIP’s newest Working Group. Approved at the Sept 4th SC meeting. Now the ACDC TF will be doing the necessary steps to close the work they are currently working on in the TF, and having the TSWG donate the appropriate work items to the new KSWG.
You to Everyone 11:17 AM
Is an ecosystem of ecosystem pattern a hierarchy or network and how do technologies support either model
Darrell O'Donnell to Everyone 11:17 AM
Hierarchy or heterarchy.
Judith Fleenor to Everyone 11:19 AM
https://www.trustoverip.org/toip-model/
Judith Fleenor to Everyone 11:27 AM
Watch this page which should be updated with the Tech Arch V2 spec available here after Oct. 1st when it is targeted to be approved by TSWG.
https://www.trustoverip.org/our-work/technical-architecture/
You to Everyone 11:29 AM
Is DIDcomm part of the TSWG?
Darrell O'Donnell to Everyone 11:29 AM
No. DIDComm is at DIF
Judith Fleenor to Everyone 11:30 AM
This BLOG explains the TSP:
https://www.trustoverip.org/blog/2024/04/11/toip-announces-the-first-implementers-draft-of-the-trust-spanning-protocol-specification/
There is a reference implementation of the TSP in code at OWF - Open Wallet Foundation.
You to Everyone 11:34 AM
We can expect therefore that lower level services are the ones who are going to implement the trust spanning protocol and who then sell services to the trust application developers.
Judith Fleenor to Everyone 11:47 AM
You are asking excellent questions, Carly.
Andor Kesselman to Everyone 11:48 AM
One of my favorite blog posts about adoption of a specification:
https://commandcenter.blogspot.com/2024/01/what-we-got-right-what-we-got-wrong.html
Andor Kesselman to Everyone 11:49 AM
Here’s openID certifications program
https://openid.net/certification/
As an example
Judith Fleenor 11:54 AM
The ToIP Steering Committee talked about creating Test Suites and eventually Certification for the ToIP Specification over two years ago.
Both Test Suites and Certifications is in the possible future plan.
Take a look at the Evolution of the Stack which outlines that timeline and where we are now:
https://www.trustoverip.org/our-work/evolution-of-the-toip-stack/
When we get to that point, we will decided if we develop that ourselves or partner with other organizations such as OWF and/or Kantera or others.
Judith Fleenor to Everyone 11:49 AM
Here is the BLOG for the TRQP before it was renamed to Trust Registries Query Protocol.
https://www.trustoverip.org/blog/2024/04/03/toip-announces-the-implementers-draft-of-thetrust-registry-protocol-specification-v2-0/
Andor Kesselman to Everyone 11:51 AM
TRQP is a simple RESTful Endpoint that sits on top of an existing trust registry to answer the question : “ Does entity X hold authorization Y under ecosystem governance framework Z?”
Nicky Hickman to Everyone 11:52 AM
Also do TR's also sometimes hold schema? or is that in verifiable data registries?
Drummond Reed to Everyone 11:53 AM
Yes, Nicky, they can also hold schema (but they don’t have to be the only source of schema)
Judith Fleenor to Everyone 11:55 AM (Edited)
The ToIP Steering Committee talked about creating Test Suites and eventually Certification for the ToIP Specification over two years ago.
Both Test Suites and Certifications is in the possible future plan.
Take a look at the Evolution of the Stack which outlines that timeline and where we are now:
https://www.trustoverip.org/our-work/evolution-of-the-toip-stack/
When we get to that point, we will decided if we develop that ourselves or partner with other organizations such as OWF and/or Kantera or others.
Andor Kesselman to Everyone 11:55 AM
https://labs.watchtowr.com/we-spent-20-to-achieve-rce-and-accidentally-became-the-admins-of-mobi/
Nicky Hickman to Everyone 11:59 AM
Thank you, lovely refresher!
Andor Kesselman to Everyone 12:00 PM
Have to pop! Thank you everyone!
Jorge Flores to Everyone 12:01 PM
Thank you
Callum Haslam 12:02 PM
If this paper is able to be shared would absolutely love to read it. Thanks so much!