Meeting Schedule

Bi-Weekly at 8:00-9:00 am PDT / 11:00-12:00 am EDT / 15:00 – 16:00 UTC / 17:00 - 16:00 CEST

Attendees

Carly

Main Goal of this Meeting

A discussion about how technologies being developed at Trust over IP can be integrated into an ecosystem.

Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)

Time	Agenda Item	Lead	Notes
5 min	Start recording Welcome & antitrust notice Introduction of new members Agenda review	Chairs	Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role. New Member Introductions:
1 min	Announcements	TF Leads	News or events of interest to EFWG members: Bhutan Innovation Forum: Paro, Oct 1-3 Global DPI Summit: Cairo, Oct 1-3 IIW: Oct 28-31 EFWG is starting again this September. Our meeting times are switching from what is on the calendar. We will meet this week, and again in two weeks and so on. The ToIP calendar has been updated.
5 min	Review of action items from the previous meeting	Chairs	...
40 min	TSWG into Ecosystems
5 min	Review decisions/action items Planning for the next meeting	Chairs

Recording

https://zoom.us/rec/share/ypLSLJVXaVDUDAj3NaraYjdfKp32btovUg3WfPmuMapjPcSHi8KBDO9ZR91tKdEk.5-BCznq4SCstnTrX

Notes

https://gan.foundation/

You  to  Everyone 11:05 AM
https://gan.foundation/

You  to  Everyone 11:11 AM
https://lf-toip.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/HOME/pages/32079873/EFWG+2024-09-19+Integration+of+TSWG+into+Ecosystems

Judith Fleenor  to  Everyone 11:13 AM
Create you LFX ID here:
https://lfx.linuxfoundation.org/

Darrell O'Donnell  to  Everyone 11:13 AM
I’m on a train so will likely fall off soon. We could add GAN to the guest list at some point.

Trust Registry Query Protocol is definitely an ecosystem need.

Andor Kesselman  to  Everyone 11:14 AM
Just a small update: We’re picking up the cadence for meetings on moving TRQP forward to bi-weekly starting next week.

You  to  Everyone 11:15 AM
https://lf-toip.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/HOME/pages/22979737/Technology+Stack+Working+Group
Trust spanning protocol
Trust Registry Query Porotocl

Judith Fleenor  to  Everyone 11:17 AM
Keri Suite Working Group (KSWG) is ToIP’s newest Working Group.  Approved at the Sept 4th SC meeting.  Now the ACDC TF will be doing the necessary steps to close the work they are currently working on in the TF, and having the TSWG donate the appropriate work items to the new KSWG.

You  to  Everyone 11:17 AM
Is an ecosystem of ecosystem pattern a hierarchy or network and how do technologies support either model

Darrell O'Donnell  to  Everyone 11:17 AM
Hierarchy or heterarchy.

Judith Fleenor  to  Everyone 11:19 AM
https://www.trustoverip.org/toip-model/

Judith Fleenor  to  Everyone 11:27 AM
Watch this page which should be updated with the Tech Arch V2  spec available here after Oct. 1st when it is targeted to be approved by TSWG.

https://www.trustoverip.org/our-work/technical-architecture/

You  to  Everyone 11:29 AM
Is DIDcomm part of the TSWG?

Darrell O'Donnell  to  Everyone 11:29 AM
No. DIDComm is at DIF

Judith Fleenor  to  Everyone 11:30 AM
This BLOG explains the TSP:
https://www.trustoverip.org/blog/2024/04/11/toip-announces-the-first-implementers-draft-of-the-trust-spanning-protocol-specification/
There is a reference implementation of the TSP in code at OWF - Open Wallet Foundation.

You  to  Everyone 11:34 AM
We can expect therefore that lower level services are the ones who are going to implement the trust spanning protocol and who then sell services to the trust application developers.

Judith Fleenor  to  Everyone 11:47 AM
You are asking excellent questions, Carly.

Andor Kesselman  to  Everyone 11:48 AM
One of my favorite blog posts about adoption of a specification:

https://commandcenter.blogspot.com/2024/01/what-we-got-right-what-we-got-wrong.html

Andor Kesselman  to  Everyone 11:49 AM
Here’s openID certifications program
https://openid.net/certification/

As an example

Judith Fleenor 11:54 AM
The ToIP Steering Committee talked about creating Test Suites and eventually Certification for the ToIP Specification over two years ago.

Both Test Suites and Certifications is in the possible future plan.

Take a look at the Evolution of the Stack which outlines that timeline and where we are now:

https://www.trustoverip.org/our-work/evolution-of-the-toip-stack/

When we get to that point, we will decided if we develop that ourselves or partner with other organizations such as OWF and/or Kantera or others.

Judith Fleenor  to  Everyone 11:49 AM
Here is the BLOG for the TRQP before it was renamed to Trust Registries Query Protocol.

https://www.trustoverip.org/blog/2024/04/03/toip-announces-the-implementers-draft-of-thetrust-registry-protocol-specification-v2-0/

Andor Kesselman  to  Everyone 11:51 AM
TRQP is a simple RESTful Endpoint that sits on top of an existing trust registry to answer the question : “ Does entity X hold authorization Y under ecosystem governance framework Z?”

Nicky Hickman  to  Everyone 11:52 AM
Also do TR's also sometimes hold schema? or is that in verifiable data registries?

Drummond Reed  to  Everyone 11:53 AM
Yes, Nicky, they can also hold schema (but they don’t have to be the only source of schema)

Judith Fleenor  to  Everyone 11:55 AM (Edited)
The ToIP Steering Committee talked about creating Test Suites and eventually Certification for the ToIP Specification over two years ago.

Both Test Suites and Certifications is in the possible future plan.

Take a look at the Evolution of the Stack which outlines that timeline and where we are now:
https://www.trustoverip.org/our-work/evolution-of-the-toip-stack/

When we get to that point, we will decided if we develop that ourselves or partner with other organizations such as OWF and/or Kantera or others.

Andor Kesselman  to  Everyone 11:55 AM
https://labs.watchtowr.com/we-spent-20-to-achieve-rce-and-accidentally-became-the-admins-of-mobi/

Nicky Hickman  to  Everyone 11:59 AM
Thank you, lovely refresher!

Andor Kesselman  to  Everyone 12:00 PM
Have to pop! Thank you everyone!

Jorge Flores  to  Everyone 12:01 PM
Thank you

Callum Haslam 12:02 PM
If this paper is able to be shared would absolutely love to read it. Thanks so much!

Decisions

Action Items

Coming up

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