September 23 2021 ToIP Design Principles TF Meeting Page

A limited series of meetings are held on Thursdays 17:00-18:00 PT / 00:00-01:00 UTC. See the ToIP Calendar for meeting info.

Zoom link: https://zoom.us/j/94524463338?pwd=TThwVFBRMG8zczVBQUVOcWdDNld6UT09

Recording

Attendees

Main Goal of this Meeting

  • Discuss Terminology and Part Two: "Wet Code" Principles

See current Google doc: Design Principles for the ToIP Stack

Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)

TimeAgenda ItemLeadNotes
5 min
  • Start recording
  • Welcome & antitrust notice
  • Introduction of new members
  • Agenda review
Leads
  • Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.
  • New Members:
  • Please, add your name and affiliation (if any) if you are contributing to this deliverable.
10 minPrinciples 3 - 7Drummond Reed
35 minsReview of Part IILeads
5 minAdditional principlesJacques Bikoundou

5 min
  • Writing assignments
  • Review decisions/action items
  • Planning for next meeting 
Leads

Notes

  • Updated order of the "dry" principles based on the history of internet itself.
  • Jo Spencer commented on the "End-to-end Principle" regarding that 'ends' will be different depending on the layer. In general each principle will have it's specific implementation on each specific layer
  • Wenjing Chu commented that he has updated the Principle #2 following raised comments. Jo Spencer  it is about the simplification of the design in the most important layer.
  • Relation between Principle #2 and #3 - Drummond Reed
  • Terminology clarification - Wenjing Chu - in Principle #5 "Cryptographic Verifiability"

Decisions

  • We will have two more meetings on September 30 and October 6.

Action Items

  • ACTION: Neil Thomson to work on a second draft of Principle #15.
  • ACTION: Drummond Reed will take a second pass on Principles #5 - #7.
  • ACTION: Drummond Reed to add a table at the end of every section summarizing the applicability of a principle to all four layers of the ToIP stack.
  • ACTION: Victor Syntez will finish an introduction to the "wet" principles.
  • ACTION: Drummond Reed to contact Elisa about scheduling meetings for Sept 30 and Oct 6.
  • ACTION: ALL: Try to finish a complete first draft by our Sept 30th meeting.