August 26 2021 ToIP Design Principles TF Meeting Page

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Last updated: Aug 31, 2021 by sankarshan
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Every Thursday (PT, ET, UTC) 5pm PT, 8pm ET, 12:00am UTC

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Recording

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Attendees

Main Goal of this Meeting

  • Achieve common understanding of the Transitive Trust

See current Google doc: Design Principles for the ToIP Stack

Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)

TimeAgenda ItemLeadNotes
5 min
  • Start recording
  • Welcome & antitrust notice
  • Introduction of new members
  • Agenda review
Chairs
  • Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.
  • New Members:
  • Please, add your name and affiliation (if any) if you are contributing to this deliverable.
15 minsDiscussion on the structure of the documentEveryone
10 minsDiscussion on how and where to introduce Risks in the document

Section authors

Scott Perry


40 minsDiscussion on Transitive TrustEveryone
1 min
  • Review decisions/action items
  • Planning for next meeting 
Chairs

Notes

  • The final number of principles and their order won't be set until at least end of August
  • Drummond Reed shared that we updated the structure of the document. We propose to organize them in three groups: 'dry', 'wet', 'overall'.
  • Judith Fleenor proposed to introduce 'dry', 'wet' principles in the beginning of the document.
  • Neil Thomson pointed that Data cannot be an afterthought and might be added as a separate principle.
  • Vikas Malhotra proposed to look at the White Paper about trust in the organizations.  Link to the document.
  • Discussion about how clear do we explain why do we need Design Principles document.

Limits & Risks of Trust

  • Scott Perry comments:
    • Risks are also a perception like trust.
  • Wenjing Chu highlights that trust is understood in myriad ways.
  • P Subrahmanyam added a comment about AI bots and algorithms are learning from huge amount of filtered data that might consist biases.
  • Scott Perry commented that Limit is where you make a decision.

Transitive Trust

  • Example of the Transitive Trust please look at this paper

Decisions

  • Risks as a part of Design Principles might be introduced in the DP #12 where we talk about Trust Can Have Limits.

Action Items

  • Neil Thomson volunteered to write up new principle.
  • sankarshan will look again at the "What are the Design Principles"
  • Proposed meeting in two weeks from now.
  • Find statistics around growth in number of digital governance and trust networks in EU and NA.
  • Drummond Reed volunteered to write up #4—Confidentiality by Design and Default
  • Scott Perry volunteered to work on Transitive Trust once the "Laws of Trust" re-org is done.