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2022-12-12 TSWG Meeting Notes

2022-12-12 TSWG Meeting Notes

Dec 12, 2022

Meeting Date

  • Dec 12, 2022 The TSWG meets bi-weekly on Mondays at 08:00-09:00 PT / 15:00-16:00 UTC. See the ToIP Calendar for meeting times and logistics.

Zoom Meeting Link / Recording

Attendees

  • @Darrell O'Donnell 

  • @Wenjing Chu 

  • @Daniel Bachenheimer 

  • @Antti Kettunen 

  • @Andor 

  • @Tim Bouma 

  • @Neil Thomson 

  • @Steve McCown 

  • ...

Main Goals of this Meeting

1) Task Force reports
2) 2023 Q1 planning

 

Important links:

Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)

Time

Agenda Item

Lead

Notes

3 min

  • Start recording

  • Welcome & antitrust notice

  • Introduction of new members

  • Agenda review

Chairs

  • Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.

  • New Members:

5 min

General announcements

All

Updates from TSWG members of general interest to the group.

2 min

Review of Action Items from the previous meeting

Chairs

ACTION: @Drummond Reed to add to the Technology Architecture Task Force agenda on Thursday the topic of revising the conceptual diagram of the ToIP stack to reflect the work in the ToIP Technology Architecture Specification V1.
ACTION: @Judith Fleenor (Deactivated) to complete the process of approval of the ToIP/DIF collaboration memo to clear the way for joint meetings on the topic of Trust Registries and Trust Establishment.
ACTION: @Drummond Reed to ask @Elisa Trevino to remove the Dec 26 meeting from the ToIP Calendar.

15 min

Task Force Reports

TF Leads

Technology Architecture TF — @Wenjing Chu  @Drummond Reed

  • @Drummond Reed is working on a blog post about the ToIP Trust Spanning Protocol — he will post a link to our Slack channel as soon as it is ready for review. The goal is to publish it no later than Dec 19th.

  • The TATF needs to find a new meeting slot that is not the off-week for the TSWG meetings as too many folks have Monday morning conflicts (e.g. HXWG).

    • DISCUSSION TOPIC: Can we find one more meeting slot on Tue or Wed that we can alternate between TSWG meetings and TATF meetings?

  • NOTES: Where should we go next? Next thing for TATF should be to create a list for the components worked on in other organizations. Then  prioritize roadmap for ToiP TATF work. Priority in spanning layer protocol(s)?

Trust Registry TF — @Darrell O'Donnell

  • The ToIP / DIF collaboration memo is now signed by both Executive Directors - we will be working to align discussions between the groups. @Andor is the lead there.

  • ACTION: @Darrell O'Donnell to coordinate renaming of TATF call to TRTF for Thursday's TF working sessions. 

  • Ad Hoc meetings prepared for this week: Tuesday 9am PT (US/EU) and Wednesday 6pm PT (APAC)

  • Google Doc for early (and messy) capture - re-jigging Github for more formal capture and work

  • co-leads added: @Antti Kettunen and @Andor have stepped up

ACDC TF — @Sam Smith @Philip Feairheller 

  • -

AI & Metaverse (AIM) Technology TF — @Wenjing Chu @Vikas Malhotra 

  • -

15 min

Q1 2023 Planning

 

In addition to the Trust Registry Task Force now meeting at full force, there is a propos

NOTES:

  • Need of new task forces for component level development. Not all components warrant a new Task Force. How to start work on new proposals.

  • Andor

    • three main things: Spanning layer, DID Auth & Trust Registries

    • Could CTWG be used to create collective & collaborative terminology

  • Tim

    • Year of the wallet wars

    • Battle of Standards & schemes

    • Policy makers become more descriptive

    • Governments will formulate positions and become more articulate

    • Attention to the public policy level. Policy makers donot care about the tech protocol battles, but the requirements space.

    • This can be seen in EU, California, Canada, etc.

    • ToIP  to become voice of reason for policy makers.

    • Three communities: DTC/ICAO, Mobile Driver's License (esp states), Education community (national credentials).

    • Differences in approach EU (bureaucracy) vs North America  (market led)

    • New document coming for conformity assessment program for testing components from CIOSC "Objects of Conformity Assessment". https://github.com/CIOSC/CAS-Digital-Credentials/blob/main/scheme/objects/objca-table.md

  • Judith

    • TATF earlier AP's included @Tim Bouma  helping create a Reference framework for Policy makers

  • Antti:

    • Next year, EU Large  Scale Pilots will be providing input for the eIDAS

  • Daniel:

    • EU has done the pilot approach before. Scytel and Intrasoft are the small IT-companies who won the EU frame contract. The wallet code is going to be relesased as open source

    • ISO subcommittee SC17 looking into digital wallets (Security devices for personal identifications). SC17 includes also other similar working groups (ICAO & mDL). First meeting of the advisory group on the 17th  of Dec. @Daniel Bachenheimer is a member of this group and will report back any  news.

10 min

Special topic #2

 

 

5 min

Any other business

 

 

5 min

  • Review decisions/action items

  • Planning for next meeting 

Chairs

Next meeting: 

Define criteria for spinning up new Task Force for component development

Screenshots/Diagrams (numbered for reference in notes above)

#1

 

Decisions

Sample Decision Item

Action Items

@Darrell O'Donnell Create a collaboration page
Andor will set up a Google doc to list the potential components / areas to work on next in the TATF Done, see here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hmrgWbOySGpfC9VuTLrwpDK7Cv6Kkr5VKC6yB1mFtRo/edit?usp=sharing