2023-12-21 AIM TF Meeting Notes

2023-12-21 AIM TF Meeting Notes

Meeting Date & Time

  • Dec 21, 2023 

    • 09:00-10:00 PT / 16:00-17:00 UTC 

Zoom Meeting Links / Recordings

Meetinghttps://zoom.us/j/98931559152?pwd=d0ZwM1JHQ3d5cXRqVTh4NlRHeVJvQT09

Recording

Transcript: 



Attendees:

@Wenjing Chu
@Anita Rao
@Steven Milstein
@Dan Bachemheimer

Main Goal of this Meeting

Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)

Time

Agenda Item

Lead

Notes

5 min

  • Start recording

  • Welcome & antitrust notice

  • Introduction of new members

  • Agenda review

Chairs

  • Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws.

  • ToIP Policy: Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.

  • ToIP TSWG IPR Policy: see TF wiki page. AI & Metaverse Technology Task Force

5 mins

  • Introduction of new members

  • Any general announcements, news, that could be of interest to the TF

  • Last week's action items

All



40 mins

A proposal to initiate a deliverable on Authentic AI : request for comments and interests

@Wenjing Chu 

  • This will be the second iteration of draft proposal for soliciting feedbacks/interests. If there's sufficient interest to pursue, we will come back to have a deeper discussion on Dec 21 (which will be the last meeting of TF for this year).

  • We discussed the document and made updates to the document. See document. 

  • We reviewed the draft @Wenjing Chu created and all the comments we had received on the google doc. The proposal is to produce a timely report on this hot topic but stay in the authentic AI / trustworthy AI area which intersects ToIP's tool kit (e.g. VIDs, TSP, ACDC, ... ).

  • @Daniel Bachenheimer questioned why it's only "authenticity" - @Wenjing Chu explained that he is borrowing the concept from C2PA where authentic content meant not only authenticity of the author/creator but also integrity of the image (not being tampered with). One of the first comments in the google doc is also defining terms clearly as part of the work.

  • One  of @Steven Milstein 's suggestions is to have a 'case study' to focus application use cases. @Wenjing Chu proposed e.g. on RAG style AI applications. We had a discussion and agreed we should also generalize RAG into dataset management to avoid closely tying to a solution that may become dated or narrow quickly.

  • We had a discussion around using C2PA for content authenticity (through provenance metadata) and use VID + TSP for communication of such content therefore combing two techniques for a complete solution.

  • We had a discussion on parties in AI ecosystem e.g. consent, agreement, license, leveraging VID + TSP + ACDC etc. and apply such a solution to the case study.

  • We also discussed, even though we should start with a case study, if we get more attention and contribution, we could apply the same solution scheme to other use cases.

  • We will recap and resume the discussions at the Jan 18 meeting in the new year.

10 mins

Happy holidays!

ALL

  • This is our last meeting of 2023.

  • Do we keep the current time slot for 2024?

0 mins

  • Review decisions/action items

  • Planning for next meeting 

  • AOB

Chairs

  • We will cancel Jan 4 and restart on Jan 18, 2024.

  • Keep the same time slot (and discuss on Jan 18 if there're needs to adjust)