Time

Agenda Item

Lead

Notes

5 min

• Start recording

• Welcome & antitrust notice

• Introduction of new members

• Agenda review

Chairs

• Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws.

• ToIP Policy: Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.

• ToIP TSWG IPR Policy: see TF wiki page. AI & Metaverse Technology Task Force

5 min

• Introduction of new members

• Recap of last week's meeting

• Status update on action items

• Any general announcement, news, that could be of interest to the TF

All

Some of the links from the slack channel:

• CFP：https://sciencedirect.com/journal/future-generation-computer-systems/about/call-for-papers?utm_medium=SORG&utm_source=TW&dgcid=STMJ_1657096868_CALLP_OA

• Metaverse from IEEE at https://engagestandards.ieee.org/IEEE-Metaverse-Congress-Series.html

• To define liability issues from EU: https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/default/files/1_1_197605_prop_dir_ai_en.pdf

Neal Thomson @Neil Thomson : BI, Data semantics

@Mary Lacity MOBI (blockchain & IoT): Mobile Open Blockchain Initiative - invitation for someone in ToIP to present there. Connect with @Judith Fleenor (Deactivated) 

20 mins

Verifiable Oversight on AI Systems

@Iain Barclay 

Slide deck: https://trustoverip.slack.com/files/U01T8AH6EPR/F044EN1624T/verifiable_oversight_in_ai_systems.pdf

• @Wenjing Chu what verifiable credential (VC) specifically add rather than DID (authentic parties) + data management (e.g. Git)? @Iain Barclay May apply to higher level constructs and inquiries.

• @Neil Thomson what is the difference between VC and 'verifiable data'? maybe over-burdening by throwing into VC as a single data container format?

• @Vikas Malhotra What attributes? Will the attributes vary depending on where the data assets are? Who is carrying data in different buckets. Would we come up a recommendation with these roles? A work item in this TF?

• @Mary Lacity How do you see this method applied to the "models" - in addition to datasets/source? BOM + Metadata. Probably reputation is also a factor. Examples in medical study/trial processes. e.g. data sheets with all side effects etc.

• @Wenjing Chu My previous research paper also discusses this: https://arxiv.org/abs/2102.06362, where our research tries to capture the entire AI pipeline, including data sources, user interaction, models, and deployments.

• All: Questions for this Task Force: can we work out a recommendation on how to address this ?

• @Mary Lacity Ongoing work that may present to ToIP 

• @Wenjing Chu For scalability/efficiency needed, we may also look at how software developers use Git or to extend Git to data and AI models etc.

20 mins

How AI & Metaverse intersect with ToIP stack? New design principles for ToIP stack?

@Wenjing Chu 

Slide deck: https://trustoverip.slack.com/files/U0161E2T6MN/F0449QX0AQ6/what_is_ai__what_is_metaverse__how_do_they_intersect_with_trust_.pdf?origin_team=T014XHHP0P5&origin_channel=C03G3S7BH8U

We ran out of time - so this topic will be rescheduled for the next meeting.

5 mins

When and how to start the phase 1 white paper

@sankarshan 

Postponed to a later date TBD

5 mins

• Call for presentations for October 13

• Review decisions/action items

• Planning for next meeting 

• AOB

Chairs

Call for action: Can this TF work on recommendations of these aspects raised in Iain's work.