Time

Agenda Item

Lead

Notes

5 min

• Start recording

• Welcome & antitrust notice

• Introduction of new members

• Agenda review

• Assigning minutes taker

Chairs

• Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws.

• ToIP Policy: Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.

• ToIP TSWG IPR Policy: see TF wiki page. AI & Metaverse Technology Task Force. Please remember that TSWG2 has transitioned to a new IPR policy using OWF license.

15 mins

• Introduction of new members

• Any general announcements news, that could be of interest to the TF

• Last week's action items

All

• DISCUSSION : AI's "trustworthiness" - what does it mean?

  • OpenAI's ChatGPT search

  • Anthropic's ID verification

  • Personhood ID

• Notes

  • Two aspects of a LLM based search wrt trustworthiness from the consumer's perspective

    • LLM's understanding of user intent - intentionality & how LLM decides to act on it - whether the LLM acts for the benefit of the user

    • LLM's completion and summary of the search: whether good sources are found and sources are clearly cited and easy to follow up with.

  • Personhood ID

    • Identity of the creator - separation of rights and responsibilities

    • Identity of the controller - delegation of authority

35 mins

White Paper & C2PA and CAWG, TSP

All 

• Recap of @Eric Scouten and @Wenjing Chu presentation at IIW.

  • Conclusion from the discussion:

    • We will describe how TSP can address the transit provenance problem given a C2PA documented content metadata.

    • We will also describe other more decentralized methods such as ACDC or VC which can have the benefits of scaling because of their adoption of decentralized IDs and wallets.

    • Applications may see pro's and con's in each method and have mixed deployments.

• @Steven Milstein shared his HackMD write-up on decentralizing C2PA: https://hackmd.io/@stevenmilstein/r1nQsKAe1g

• Continue working on the White Paper (see the link below)

  • https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bsgP1LS7G6x9mxqoA3OszevmgVh9lz0YEziR9skId2A/edit?usp=sharing

• ACTION ITEMS FROM LAST MEETING

  • @Neil Thomson will add a small note on C2PA. He will also add for the travel use case. 

    • Neil Thomson - added the Personalized Travel & AI section, made a number of comments on Authenticity and use of C2PA vs a more generic Content Authenticity Framework 

• Have an edited final version by the end of Sept.

• Ready to publish by the beginning of October (before IIW)

• We considered doing a series of blogs first, but due to the above time schedule, we decided to complete the white paper first and then a series of short blogs on each of the main points.

Invited all contributors to:

• contribute a concise description of use cases (shorten them to keep the early section short)

• feedbacks on structure

• any other feedback, critiques, ideas

• ACTION ITEMS

  • AI Agents/bots will be making changes to the work items created. How do we verify the identity of these agents in the workflow for creating/modifying creatives? (@Wenjing Chu will take this and propose)

• Revise schedule 

PS : Older notes:

5 mins

• Review decisions/action items

• Planning for next meeting 

• AOB

Chairs

NEW ACTIONS from the previous meeting postponed to the next meeting.

• Eric Drudry to drive discussion on https://z-inspection.org/about/ . (pushed out as Eric is traveling)