2025-05-08 AIM TF Meeting Notes

2025-05-08 AIM TF Meeting Notes

Meeting Date & Time

  • May 8, 2025 

    • 09:00-10:00 PT / 16:00-17:00 UTC 

Zoom Meeting Links / Recordings

Meetinghttps://zoom.us/j/98931559152?pwd=d0ZwM1JHQ3d5cXRqVTh4NlRHeVJvQT09

Recording: you can find them in LFX calendar. We no longer manually add the links here.

Attendees:

  • @Wenjing Chu

  • @Eric Drury

  • @Neil Thomson

  • @Nicky Hickman

  • @Steven Milstein

  • Jeff Braswell

Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)

Time

Agenda Item

Lead

Notes

5 min

  • Welcome & antitrust notice

  • Introduction of new members

  • Agenda review

  • Recording with transcription is now automatic

Chairs

  • Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws.

  • ToIP Policy: Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.

  • ToIP TSWG IPR Policy: see TF wiki page 

5 mins

  • Introduction of new members

  • Any general announcements news, that could be of interest to the TF

  • Quick review of action items that are not in the agenda below

All

  • Any new members to introduce

  • Any news to share

Some logistic issues:

  • subscribing to this meeting reported by @Eric Drury

  • getting host code to kick out un-identified bots

  • finding links to auto-saved recordings and transcripts and ai summaries

  • old recordings missing (from 2023) - is it expired?

5 mins

White paper "TSP: Strengthening Trust in Human and AI Interactions" status

@Wenjing Chu

5 mins

Upgrading this TF to a WG

All

  • Next step - charter to SC. Date is May 21.

  • Shall we use the same selections of IPR as the TSWG?

    • and add the high level scope language

20 mins

Proposal: Adding trust to agents

@Wenjing Chu

My presentations to GOSIM Paris and EIC Berlin 2025.

Here is the presentation link.

  • MCP and A2A and other competing proposals (e.g. ANP) have serious security and trust challenges.

  • Leverage VIDs & TSP & governance & HX from ToIP and related communities

  • Produce a specification and implementation

  • A faster approach: get some MVP in 2 months, then we can work on refinements

  • A summary of MCP/A2A "insecurity" - why a new approach is necessary. what "trust" tasks needed.

  • A prototype of MVP implementation

  • Use cases/example applications - work on demo apps

  • A draft spec.

  • Who's interested

20 mins

Framework for Trustworthy AI Agents

Eric Drury

Question raised: Can this be a task force within the forthcoming WG? Yes. It's up to contributors to decide if a separate task force makes sense or to stay within the same WG weekly meetings.