2025-04-24 AIM TF Meeting Notes

2025-04-24 AIM TF Meeting Notes

Meeting Date & Time

  • Apr 24, 2025 

    • 09:00-10:00 PT / 16:00-17:00 UTC 

Zoom Meeting Links / Recordings

Meetinghttps://zoom.us/j/98931559152?pwd=d0ZwM1JHQ3d5cXRqVTh4NlRHeVJvQT09

Recording: you can find them in LFX calendar. We no longer manually add the links here.

Attendees:

  • @Wenjing Chu

  • @Eric Drury

  • @Neil Thomson

  • @Nicky Hickman

  • @Chi Hwa Tang

  • @Andor Kesselman

  • @Steven Milstein

Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)

Time

Agenda Item

Lead

Notes

5 min

  • Welcome & antitrust notice

  • Introduction of new members

  • Agenda review

  • Recording with transcription is now automatic

Chairs

  • Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws.

  • ToIP Policy: Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.

  • ToIP TSWG IPR Policy: see TF wiki page 

5 mins

  • Introduction of new members

  • Any general announcements news, that could be of interest to the TF

  • Quick review of action items that are not in the agenda below

All

10 mins

White paper "TSP: Strengthening Trust in Human and AI Interactions" ready for publication

@Wenjing Chu

  • https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gkydvJP30-nsF3I0tfIkZrMIg29rcul-Z3ekvZZLibY/edit?tab=t.0

  • All comments resolved. THANK YOU for all of your contributions!

  • Publication:

    • Permanent hosting site (ToIP web page "Deliverables")

    • Promotions: LFDT blogs (emailed Emily), ToIP blogs

    • Video podcast? Other ideas?

  • Open question: interest to see it as a specification or implementation? Can be a collaboration between AIM & CAWG (and along with TSP and C2PA respectively). 

    • Reach out to @Eric Scouten for feedback.

20 mins

Upgrading this TF to a WG

All

  • Presented to the SC

  • Presented to the all member meeting

  • Scope discussion

  • Working with DIF

  • Next steps

20 mins

Work item proposal: Adding trust to agents

@Wenjing Chu

  • MCP and A2A and other competing proposals (e.g. ANP) have serious security and trust challenges.

  • Leverage VIDs & TSP & governance & HX from ToIP and related communities

  • Produce a specification and implementation

  • A faster approach: get some MVP in 2 months, then we can work on refinements

  • Notes from discussions

    • A lot of blogs/papers on how insecure MCP is.

    • Collaboration with work on evaluation by and input to a framework @Eric Drury

    • Follow up with ideas on adoption @Andor Kesselman

IF TIME

Framework for Trustworthy AI Agents

Eric Drury

Question raised: Can this be a task force within the forthcoming WG? Yes. It's up to contributors to decide if a separate task force makes sense or to stay within the same WG weekly meetings.