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2025-03-05 TRTF Meeting Notes

2025-03-05 TRTF Meeting Notes

Meeting Date

  • Dec 4, 2023 The ToIP Trust Registry Task Force (TRTF) meets weekly twice every Thursday at the following times (to cover global time zones - see the Calendar of ToIP Meetings for full meeting info including Zoom links):

    • NA/EU 07:00-8:00 PT / 15:00-16:00 UTC 

    • APAC 18:00-19:00 PT / 02:00-03:00 UTC

Zoom Meeting Link / Recording

  • NA/EU MEETING: 

    • @Drummond Reed

    • @Andor Kesselman

    • Fabrice Rochette

    • Jeff Braswell

    • Eric Drury

    • Sankarshan

    • Makki Elfatiih

    • Scott Perry

If you missed the recording, LFX Meetings has the meeting recording!

Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)

Time

Agenda Item

Lead

Notes

 

5 min

  • Start recording

  • Welcome & antitrust notice

  • Introduction of new members

  • Agenda review

Chairs

  • Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.

  • New Members:

 

5 min

Review of previous action items

Chairs

  • Wiki

 

5-10 min

Updated Spec PR

@Andor Kesselman

Language Improvements To the Spec: https://github.com/trustoverip/tswg-trust-registry-protocol/pull/86

 

 

Github Hygiene

@Andor Kesselman

Github Hygiene :

  • Add To Milestones For Public Review

  • Close/Resolve all old issues (30+)

  • Clear old/dead branches

Outcome:

  1. A single branch

  2. Only relevant issues are still live.

  3. All old PR’s should be closed.

 

10 mins

Updated Diagrams

Drummond Reed

Wiki UpdatedToIP Trust Registry Query Protocol (TRQP) Specification Overview

  • What is in a trust registry section added

  • Intro shortened.

 

10 mins

 

DICE Updates

  • [DR] Used wiki at DICE. Good feedback.

  • [DD] Lots of Trust Registry conversations going on.

    • TRAIN was very active there.

    • TRAIN/Issac : TRQP to train.

  • [DD] Trust Service Providers and Swiss e-ID team.

    • Non government use cases. Enablers not controllers.

  • [DR] Supposed to be focused on ecosystems

  • [DR] Nationstate level, getting about ecosystems

  • [DR] Lack of ecosystems showing up.

  • [DR] 1.6 Version of ARF got released.

  • [DR] 90 min sessions.

  • [DR] Lots of people complaining.

  • [SP] eIDAS 2.0 is an example of over-governance

  • [DR] Unlinkability requirements are challenging.

  • [DR] BBS not a EU standard yet

  • [DR] Batch issuance : Verifier/Issuer collusion.

  • [DR] ZKP the only answer here.

  • [DR] How is the EU going to operate with the rest of the world?

    • PID and all the ways to protect that.

    • Low frequency use cases.

    • Interoperability issues.

  • [DO] Students moving from EU to Japan

  • [SP] A lot of countries have the own agenda.

  • [SP] A way to do this is iterative. Big bang for implementers to implement.

  • [SP] Iterative standards are important.

  • [AK] Will ecosystems benefit from the model?

    • [DO] Business’s are thinking about it as silos

    • [DO] Trying to force it won’t work.

    • [DR]: “Daniel Säuberli’s request — called “What is a digital trust ecosystem and how do you connect them”

    • [DR]: To get relying parties to the table, value circle of the ecosystems need to be clear.

      • TR’s are a piece of that.

    • [DO] “What is a digital trust ecosystem and how do you connect them”

      • It’s not a helpful question unless you as a party in an ecosystem of ecosystems understand:

        • That they are an ecosystem in a set of ecosystems

        • That they need each other

        • That there is a safe place to talk about the problems

      • [Sankarshan] It often turns into “am I (or are we) part of a digital trust ecosystem?” Before the “ecosystem thinking” kicks in.

 

5 mins

  • Review decisions/action items

  • Planning for next meeting 

Chairs

  • Consider APAC call

    • John Phillips

    • Alex Tweedale

    • Send out a slack message later.

  • Close all motion to close tickets by next meeting assuming no action.

    • Callout to slack to review any issue.

  • Linux Foundation Looking For Updates

  • [AK] Won’t it get lost with the other annoucements

  • [DR] Be on the lookout

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Notes:

  • [SP] Modified Governance Driven Trust Registry:

    • Focused on implementation/governance can work together. How can they mesh.

    • Where published?

      • Outside of ToIP

      • Probably published

      • TODO: Figure out how it can be surfaced in this work?

    • [DO] Under the overview, known implementation and guidance resource.

Screenshots/Diagrams (numbered for reference in notes above)

Decisions

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Action Items

 

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