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Meeting Schedule

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APAC - Alternate Wednesdays — 09:30-10:30 IST / 21:00-22:00 PDT / 04:00-05:00 UTC

List of previous meetings, notes and recordings.

NA/EU Meeting - Thursday 29 October 2020

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1. Housekeeping announcement
   1. Please keep microphone on mute if you are not speaking
   2. This meeting will be recorded - start recording before the next item
2. Welcome notes; Linux Foundation Antitrust Policy and requirement to be a member of this WG by signing the charter to be read out or shown (2 mins)
   1. The objective of this WG meeting is to 
      1. (a) review/approve a proposed Draft Deliverable,
      2. (b) review progress of active task forces
3. Introduction of new members - please introduce yourself on the call or by using the chat function in the format Name; Affiliation; Location; any other detail you would like to share (5 mins)
4. Announcement: Special Meeting with Naomi Szekeres, Network of Networks Director at T3 Networks, to understand their specific ecosystem governance requirements—Friday Oct 16—8:30-9PM PT / 11:30-Noon ET / 15:30-16:00 UTC
   1. Meeting invite and reminders to be sent separately; the meeting will be recorded; if you'd like to join the meeting please reach out to David Luchuk
5. Status update from APAC call (Kalyan Kulkarni 5 mins); also see here
6. Proposed Draft Deliverable: Presentation Slides   Risks of Verifiable Credentials (Scott Perry 15 mins)
   1. WG is approving this product as a draft deliverable (in Stage 2) to be reviewed/approved by the WG as an approved deliverable for the SC review/approval
      
7. Review/Discussion of proposed ToIP Governance Metamodel as a component of the ToIP Governance Architecture TSS Draft Deliverable (Drummond Reed15 mins)
   1. Structure
   2. Normative statements
   3. Dependency on the ToIP Governance Glossary
   4. Next steps
8. MVF (Minimal Viable Framework) Strategy Proposal (Drummond Reed 10 mins)
   1. (more details to come on this as soon as Drummond can write them up)
9. Any other business
   1. Topics introduced by sankarshan
      1. Discuss and review the current meeting schedule in light of whether it provides reasonable time to focus on work/tasks and make progress
      2. Discuss and consider the improvement towards meeting management and participation by being able to create agenda for n+2 meetings in advance

APAC Meeting - Wednesday 07 October 2020

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1. Welcome and Linux Foundation antitrust policy (4 minutes into the start time)
   
   1. The objective of this WG meeting is to enable the participants to meet and interact with our new Program Manager Dave Luchuk and to get update on work done so far under Trust Assurance, Roles & Process TFs
      1. Introductory notes from Kalyan
         
   2. Introductions of new members - 5 minutes (Please use the format: Name / Affiliation / Location / any other detail you would like to share) (5 mins into the meeting)
      
      1. John Phillips - Working in SSI for the last 3.5 years, helping to explain the concepts and benefits to educational and commercial organisations as well as government bodies. Co-chair of the Sovrin Foundation's Working Group on Guardianship and creator of that popsicle sticks and foam figure explanation of SSI on ssimeetup.org.
         
   3. GSWG Leadership Updates - (10 minutes into the meeting)
      
      1. Recap of GSWG EU Call  - sankarshan  
         
         1. Notes from the meeting and next set of tasks can be found here.
   4. Presentation Topic - Getting to know ToIP new Program Manager Dave Luchuk (11 minutes into the meeting)
      
      1. John Phillips - can all of this be done or do we need to find what to scope and review existing work
      2. Alex - how does work in this WG intersect with PCTF work underway
      3. Kalyan - the APAC teams are yet to begin contributions into ongoing ToIP work - what specific asks does Dave have on APAC?
   5. Presentation Topic - Dive into the work done so far in Trust Assurance and Roles & Processes TF (15 minutes) - Scott Perry (42 minutes into the meeting)
      
      1. Trust Assurance Development Kit - call-for-action to review the primer and evaluate in the context of the deliverables of the Trust Assurance Task Force deliverables
      2. IETF RFC 3647 - Scott would like to create an issuer (of VCs) document similar to this RFC would pull in the technical aspects
   6. Policy Updates and Announcements from APAC (53 minutes into the meeting)
      
      1. News from India - Government announced - National Digital Health Blueprint - Potential for leveraging TOIP work (5 mins) - Kalyan Kulkarni
         1. For views, remarks, discussions please use the Slack channel or our mailing list
   7. Open Discussion / Q&A 
      1. Opportunities for APAC GSWG to contribute in existing or new TFs, Use Cases, etc. / other regional topics
   8. Topics for future meetings:
      1. Public Initiative in Kochi, India to form a consortia for issuance of digital identity to the citizens.
      2. Quick peek at "Digital Health ID" Initiative in India - How a govt driven governance model may shape up
      3. Participation by few industry veterans
      4. <Contribute/Propose name>

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1. Welcome and Linux Foundation antitrust policy
   1. The objective of this WG meeting is to enable the participants to meet and interact with our new Program Manager Dave Luchuk
   2. Introduction of new members - 5 minutes (Please use the format: Name / Affiliation / Location / any other detail you would like to share)
      
      1. No new members at this instance of the meeting
   3. GSWG Leadership Updates
      1. Drummond Reed on sabbatical for August - Starting up Governance Architecture TF in September
   4. Activities since our last NA/EU call
1. Recap of GSWG APAC Call  - Kalyan Kulkarni
   
   1. Notes from the meeting and next set of tasks can be found here.
   2. Status of Ideas to Deliverables, A Trust Over IP Workflow Proposal - Steven Milstein & Sankarshan
      1. Quick introduction by Steven (for David Luchuk - more follow-up to be done to see where we can go with this)
   3. Status of GSWG Process & Roles TF - Scott Perry
      1. Scott has created and updated a list of roles and processes on the wiki; call-for-review with invitation to edit/add/modify existing list. How does the existing static governance (layer) diagram evolve. Scott is planning to advance the Trust Assurance specifics.
      2. Open discussion discussion of escrow services (original introduced as a topic by Daniel Hardman)
         
   4. Status of Governance Library Repository - Steve Magennis
      1. No new updates to the library - presently being maintained in a personal Google Drive and hopefully can be more formal and structured (say GitHub etc)
   5. Plan for Creation of Trust Assurance Task Force - Scott Perry
      1. ToIP Trust Assurance Development Kit V.10 document available for comment here
         1. This is a follow-up from the introductory session on this topic from Scott.
         2. A more formal TF around Trust Assurance would be set up subsequent to better inventory of actors, roles and processes are developed.
         3. Chris Ingrao (Deactivated) as part of Trust Assurance, are you considering Layer 4 <-> Layer 4 governance? 
            1. Scott - yes. Also wait for the Governance Architecture TF being set up
      2. Open topic of discussion: What will it mean for an implementation of a governance model or even full ecosystem to be ToIP 'compliant?
         1. Steve Magennis - are we simply providing guiding/insight or are we looking to do something that some level of compliance can be ascertained. This end outcome concept is what is important to keep in mind. There are multi-dimensional questions more around brownfield deployments come up.
   6. Related Industry Activities - Open Call for member updates
2. Presentation Topic -Getting to know ToIP new Program Director Dave Luchuk
   1. phenomenal exposition of Dave's journey through identity space and government - please watch recording.
3. Open Discussion / Q&A
   1. how to reach out to Dave dluchuk@contractor.linuxfoundation.org

4. Topics for future meetings
   1. Corda Foundation Network (Carolyne Quinn, Executive Director)
      1. ISO Blockchain Technical Committee (Emily Dawson)
      2. Credential Master (Timothy Ruff, Interim CEO)
      3. <Contribute/Propose name>

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1. Welcome and Linux Foundation antitrust policy
   1. Introductions of new members - 5 minutes (Please use the format: Name / Affiliation / Location / any other detail you would like to share)
   2. GSWG Leadership Updates - 5 minutes
      1. Drummond Reed on Writing Sabbatical for August
      2. Roles and Processes TF led by Scott
      3. Liaison page - Liaison and Leadership with standards organizations (please provide detail if you are working with other standards and like organizations)
         1. Victor Syntez - bringing his focus on education and digital identity credentials for learners; waiting for the Internet of Education TF to commence.
            1. Modeling of educational credentials is on-going work
         2. Catherine - the DIF Interop WG is likely going to have impact
         3. Alex - there is a need for integrating the governance into the use cases (for the CCI initiative) to enable scaling up
      4. Jim's introduction to the Patient Identity Task Force - to focus on patient processes and information and patient identity
   3. Presentation Topic -
      1. Scott Perry - Commencement of Trust Assurance TF - 10 minutes
         1. Introduction to the need and concepts around Trust Assurance
            1. Laying out why work around governance framework needs to consider trust criteria and risks
         2. Call to Action (for the TF to be announced)
      2. Catherine Nabbala (Finema, Bangkok) - 20 minutes - Work being done by Finema in Thailand - Approach taken to encourage the government to participate in the initiative.
         1. Finema provides a decentralized identity solution comprised of IDIN Blockchain (private), IDIN IAM and Wallet
         2. Trust Triangle based solution available for public health, education, retail, finance, legal identity and devices
         3. Approach to new tech adoption - awareness/education; basic use cases around VCs; interoperability; assistance with drafting guidelines
            1. identity custodian approach rather than "pure" SSI (which is likely to have some strides to take before wider adoption)
   4. Open Discussion / Q&A 
      1. Opportunities for APAC GSWG to contribute in existing or new TFs, Use Cases, etc. / other regional topics
      2. Readiness of the reference stack from ToIP will help influence the government adoption; availability of content in the local language helps
         1. Scott - active participation in driving the above requirement is going to be useful

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1. Welcome to attendees and Linux Foundation antitrust policy
   1. Introductory notes from Kalyan
      1. Introductions from participants
         1. Scott Perry
         2. Steven Milstein
         3. Eric Drury - independent consultant in DLT and supply chain
         4. Vinod
         5. Drummond Reed
   2. New member introductions
      1. Eric Chou, Snowbridge
         1. digital certificates to help prove ownership of land
      2. Alex David, South Korea
         1. DID based system
      3. Victor Syntez - educational professional from Victoria BC. I've got interested in blockchain and ID about a year ago. I consider that SSI can bring increadible change to education field and would like to contribute to that improvement. I hope to help TOIP in that.

      4. Kazuto Yoshimura - BTC Cooporation, a Japanese IT consulting company. I have just started to learn the ToIP govenance stacks, and I'm curious how the specifications are going to be explored here
      5. Catherine Nabbala, Finema - Global Coordinator for Finema. We are an Enterprise Decentralized Identity Platform based in Bangkok, Thailand.
   3. Reviewing the mission of the Governance Stack WG
      1. Drummond's introduction to the Layers in the ToIP stack
   4. Recap of work done from EU/NA meeting - TFs, TSS, TIPs, convening of first two Task Forces
   5. Open Discussion - Opportunities for APAC GSWG to contribute in existing or new TFs, Use Cases, etc. / other regional topics
      1. Kalyan - introduction around the hackathon themed for the National Health Stack; absence of health regulations
      2. Drummond - "trust is contextual" - there are universal aspects to it (authentication/authorization). digital trust ecosystem includes culture, law and social norms
      3. Vinod - including the concept of DID (thinking about decentralized identity - is important to position use cases etc re-purpose and present it for local context). "interoperable but specific for each trust community" (quote from Drummond as response to Vinod's inputs)
      4. sankarshan - taking the time between now and the next meeting to create specific work items to focus and start work on
   6. Meeting Bridge - https://zoom.us/j/96644380375

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