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• Welcome & antitrust notice
• New member introductions
• Agenda review

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• New Members:

• ACTION: Wenjing Chu to update the TSP spec to remove an explicit VID type field and instead support implicit VID typing using either the DID or URN namespaces on VID strings.
• ACTION: Wenjing Chu will do a comparison of the current method of specifying payloads in TSP and Sam's proposed new method (where the message type would state the type of the payload, not the type of the message envelope, as written up here) in order to make a final determination about this proposed revision.

Wenjing reported that both of these need to be turned into issues/PRs so they can be concluded and scheduled for the next Implementers Draft of the spec.

Sam Smith shared that in October that the EU Banking Authority (EBA) released a proposed regulation that in June 30, 2025, 600 banks in the EU will begin using the KERI suite of specs to do reporting. Also, the vLEI was published as an ISO Standard, specifically mentioning the KERI, CESR, and ACDC specs at ToIP. They also did a public poll for implementations and found 7 more implementations outside of the current community.

Sam is also talking with his brother at Intel who is creating a registry of all serialization types, and proposes to list CESR as a round-trippable serialization form.

Lastly, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security is going to be using vLEI and DID WebS (under the hood) for Customs and Border Protection (CBP) supply chain use cases. The credentials will use Web LEIs derived from DID WebS identifiers. The three sources of credentials for organizational identifiers are DUNS numbers, GS1 company identifiers (Web LEI), and vLEIs.

We currently have 15 open PRs and 21 open issues, so we need to prioritize and begin resolving them.

Wenjing proposes to take the two action items above and turn them into issues.

Then, on the next call, he proposes that we go through and prioritizes issues and PRs in order to determine what to include in Implementers Draft 02.

Sam pointed out that we need to create the table of message types and assign CESR message type codes.

ACTION: Sam Smith to add an issue to create the table of message types and assign CESR message type codes.

We also discussed the need to add an option for intermediaries to not need to know the full path of a multi-hop message transmission.

ACTION: Sam Smith to create an issue to add an option for intermediaries to not need to know the full path of a multi-hop message transmission.

Our next meeting would fall Nov 27th, the day before U.S. Thanksgiving. We propose to skip that meeting; have one more 2024 meeting on December 11; then skip Christmas week and next meet on Jan 8.

ACTION: Sam Smith and Wenjing Chu to arrange an offline meeting to go over issues & PRs before the December 11 meeting.

ACTION: Drummond Reed to notify Michelle Janata to cancel the APAC meetings the week of U.S. Thanksgiving and Christmas.

• Review decisions/action items
• Planning for next meeting