Meeting Date & Time

06 Dec 2023 This Task Force meets every Wednesday. There are two meetings to serve different time zones:

NA/EU meeting: 08:00-09:00 PT / 16:00-17:00 UTC
APAC meeting: 18:00-19:00 PT / 02:00-03:00 UTC

See the Calendar of ToIP Meetings for exact meeting dates, times and Zoom links.

Zoom Meeting Links / Recordings

NA/EU Meeting: https://zoom.us/j/97402960831?pwd=dVdYRWNOOEE3a3ZpQXVLM1h5VFpUQT09
APAC Meeting: https://zoom.us/j/96772881287?pwd=bzZUNXRhVUNzVjR2Z3B2cVVxc2ZUZz09

NOTE: These Zoom meeting links will be replaced by links to recordings of the meetings once they are available.

Attendees

NA/EU:

Drummond Reed <== will be 30 minutes late due to OpenWallet Foundation board meeting
Wenjing Chu <== will be 30 minutes late due to OpenWallet Foundation board meeting
Sam Smith
Darrell O'Donnell
Antti Kettunen
Tim Bouma
Christine Martin
Daniel Bachenheimer
Judith Fleenor
Lance Byrd
mathieu
Neil Thomson
Oskar van Deventer
Rodolfo Miranda
Steve McCown
Viky Manaila
Willem de Kok
Philip Feairheller
Ed Eykholt
Eric Scouten

APAC:

Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)

Time	Agenda Item	Lead	Notes
5 min	Start recording Welcome & antitrust notice New member introductions Agenda review	Leads	Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role. New Members:
0 min	Review of previous action items	Leads	None
25 mins	CESR and CBOR Deterministic Encoding	Sam Smith	Sam will give an update on the CESR (Composable Event Streaming Representation) specifications. Ideally he will also be able to contrast CESR with a new IETF specification called CBOR Common Deterministic Encoding (CDE) aka draft-ietf-cbor-cde-00. On the W3C Credentials Community Group mailing list, Anders Rundgren said CDE may be significant because: - JSON and XML require 33% more space than CBOR for dealing with binary data. - The availability of a textual counterpart (Diagnostic Notation) makes CBOR suited for configuration files. - Last but not least, deterministic encoding eliminates stuffing data-to-be signed in B64 or relying on complex canonicalization schemes. Although the standard is not yet finalized, outstanding issues only relate to edge-cases like NaN payloads. Anders also pointed to this testbed where you can try CDE. Sam explained that TSP routing is a unique combination of vector and table routing. He shared this discussion thread from the KERI work: https://github.com/WebOfTrust/keripy/discussions/612 See screenshot #1 below. Ed Eykholt asked if it is proposed that CESR is the only serialization format for the TSP. Sam explained that yes, because CESR can carry JSON, CBOR, and MsgPack.
25 mins	Working Draft Review	Wenjing Chu	Wenjing went over the latest additions to the spec as it nears content completion. See screenshots #2-#6 below that cover control messages and relationship formation.
5 mins	Review decisions/action items Planning for next meeting	Leads	We plan to have one more regular meeting this month (Wednesday 13 December) and then take off 3 weeks for the holidays, i.e., skip the Dec 20, 27, and Jan 3 meetings. So our first meeting in 2024 will be Wednesday Jan 10.