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Recording
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Attendees
- Drummond Reed
- Victor Syntez
- Mary Lacity
- Wenjing Chu
- sankarshan
- Scott Perry
- Thomas Cox
- Vikas Malhotra
- Jacques Bikoundou
- Vikas Malhotra
- Daniel Bachenheimer
Main Goal of this Meeting
"Trust Principles" discussion.
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See current Google doc: Design Principles for the ToIP Stack
Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)
| Time | Agenda Item | Lead | Notes |
| 5 min |
| Chairs |
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| 10 25 mins | Discussion on comments and edits made throughout in the last week | Section authors |
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| 30 mins | Discussion of Trust Principles | Drummond Reed | 10 |
| 5 mins | Discuss volunteers for writing assignments for the next week |
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| 5 mins1 min |
| Chairs |
Notes
- Number The final number of principles and their order won't be set until at least end of August
Technological principles discussion
- Drummond Reed Slight revision of order of principles. Presented one more iteration of the #1 End-to-End Principle
- Wenjing Chu presented his work on #2 Interoperability First aka Connectivity is it's one reward. Note from Drummond Reed that we do NOT require the Internet protocol TCP/IP as the only protocol for ToIP to operate overall. Short discussion on whether Connectivity is it's own reward includes interoperability in it.
Trust
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principles discussion
- Drummond Reed and and Mary Lacity presented the diagram presented this Google Slides presentation about Trust Principles
Decisions
- Each section in the document describing a design principle should ideally be between one and two pages in length (including illustrations).
- Each principle should start with a 2-3 line of executive summary about why ToIP chooses this principle as important.
- The writeup of each principle should follow this general structure:
- What is the principle? (Explain it in layman's terms.)
- What is the relevance of this principle to ToIP architecture and the ToIP stack?
- What is a specific example of how it will be applied? (Plus, if possible, one or more counterexamples, i.e., design decisions that would contravene the principle).
Action Items
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- Thomas Cox and Mary shared what motivated to formulate and work on "The Laws of Trust". In Academia Trust is seen as only human phenomena.
- Second principle that subject A can be either the person or the organization.
- Transitive Trust can also be called as referential trust by Scott Perry .
- Discussion around whether Trust can have Limits and are Risks included or considered in when we talk about Limits.
- Wenjing Chu principles may be simple but the combination of them can be very complex very quickly.
- Scott Perry , Victor Syntez , Mary Lacity, Wenjing Chu discussed "Trust can be transitive to some limit".
- Scott Perry and Victor Syntez brought up that Transitive Trust happens when there is a "border" to cross.
Decisions
- Wenjing Chuwill rename the #2 to "Connectivity is its own reward".
Action Items
- sankarshanvolunteered to work on "What are Design Principles?"
- Drummond Reed volunteered to write up #4—Confidentiality by Design and Default
- Victor Syntez and Drummond Reed will transfer "The Laws of Trust" content into Design Principles and combine with original text. Volunteers are welcome to start contributing text afterwards.
- Scott Perry volunteered to work on Transitive Trust once the "Laws of Trust" re-org is done.