Every Thursday (PT, ET, UTC) 5pm PT, 8pm ET, 12:00am UTC

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Recording

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Attendees

• Drummond Reed
• Victor Syntez
• Mary Lacity
• Wenjing Chu
• sankarshan
• Scott Perry
• Thomas Cox
• Vikas Malhotra
• Jacques Bikoundou
• Vikas Malhotra
• Daniel Bachenheimer

Main Goal of this Meeting

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Technological principles discussion

• Drummond Reed Slight revision of order of principles. Presented one more iteration of the #1 End-to-End Principle
• Wenjing Chu presented his work on #2 Interoperability First aka Connectivity is it's one reward. Note from Drummond Reed that we do NOT require the Internet protocol TCP/IP as the only protocol for ToIP to operate overall. Short discussion on whether Connectivity is it's own reward includes interoperability in it.

Trust principles discussion

• Drummond Reed and Mary Lacity presented this Google Slides presentation about Trust Principles.
• Thomas Cox and  Mary shared what motivated to formulate and work on "The Laws of Trust". In Academia Trust is seen as only human phenomena.
  • Second principle that subject A can be either the person or the organization.
  • Transitive Trust can also be called as referential trust by Scott Perry .
  • Discussion around whether Trust can have Limits and are Risks included or considered in when we talk about Limits.
• Wenjing Chu principles may be simple but the combination of them can be very complex very quickly.
• Scott Perry , Victor Syntez , Mary Lacity, Wenjing Chu discussed "Trust can be transitive to some limit".
  • Scott Perry  and Victor Syntez brought up that Transitive Trust happens when there is a "border" to cross.

Decisions

•  Wenjing Chuwill rename the #2 to "Connectivity is its own reward".

Action Items

•  sankarshanvolunteered to work on "What are Design Principles?"
•  Drummond Reed volunteered to write up #4—Confidentiality by Design and Default
•  Victor Syntez and Drummond Reed will transfer "The Laws of Trust" content into Design Principles and combine with original text. Volunteers are welcome to start contributing text afterwards.
•  Scott Perry volunteered to work on Transitive Trust once the "Laws of Trust" re-org is done.