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TimeAgenda ItemLeadNotes
3 min
  • Start recording
  • Welcome & antitrust notice
  • Introduction of new members
  • Agenda review
Chairs
  • Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.
  • New Members:
7 minGeneral announcementsAllUpdates from TSWG members of general interest to the group.
  • Judith shared a Happy Thanksgiving with everyone, even those outside the U.S.
  • Drummond shared that the Global Acceptance Network (GAN) is on track. TODO link & image
5 minReview of action items from the previous meetingChairs
  •  ACTION: Drummond Reed to work with Wenjing Chu to finish the remaining formatting and editing tasks on the ToIP Technology Architecture Specification Public Review Draft 02 and then send an email by Friday 06 Sept to the full ToIP mailing list requesting a 7 day review period.
  •  ACTION: When all reviews are finished, Drummond Reed to produce a PDF of the final version of the ToIP Technology Architecture Specification Public Review Draft 02 for posting on the website.
  •  ACTION: Darrell O'Donnell to make sure the GitHub spec is updated with the new name for the Trust Registry Query Protocol.
  •  ACTION: Drummond Reed to check with Wenjing Chu about having the next blog post about the Trust Spanning Protocol ready for posting prior to Sept 16.
  •  ACTION: Drummond Reed to remind Wenjing Chu that the Credentials Exchange Protocols TF would like to have a presentation about the Trust Spanning Protocol.
20 minTask Force ReportsTF Leads

Technology Architecture TFWenjing Chu  Drummond Reed

  • -TODO

Trust Registry TFAndor Antti Kettunen  Darrell O'Donnell

  • -TODO

Trust Spanning Protocol TFDrummond Reed Wenjing Chu Sam Smith 

  • -TODO

AI & Metaverse (AIM) Technology TFWenjing Chu 

  • Neil Thomson - working to complete "TSP and AI for Authenticity" Paper; target is early Jan 2025

Credential Exchange Protocols TFmathieu 

  • -On hiatus

High Assurance VIDs TF — Alex Tweeddale Jesse Carter Scott Perry mathieu Andre Kudra Drummond Reed

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  • TODO
  • We will be moving to a new call rotation starting next week.
  • Judith also recommended inviting Karen from Certizen to join the HAVTF.

ACTION: Drummond Reed to reach out to Karen from Certizen to join the HAVTF (or have other X.509 experts do that).

5 minNOTICE OF WORKING GROUP IPR TERMS CHANGE

See the heading below entitled "Copy of 2024-11-15 Email to Technology Stack Working Group Mailing List". This explains the notice that was given to all current TSWG members.

ACTION: Drummond Reed to update the TSWG home page with the following notification language about the patent exclusion requirement:
NOTICE: In addition to the licensing terms of this Working Group’s JDF charter, this Working Group operates under the official policy that any Working Group Participant who makes a contribution to a Draft Deliverable shall have a maximum of 45 days from the date of that contribution to exclude any Essential Claims pertaining to that contribution.

10 minToIP Steering Committee NominationsChairs

The TSWG needs to put forth a set of nominees for the 2025 Steering Committee. So far the members that have been nominated via Slack or mailing lists include:

  • John Phillips (Sezoo)
  • Eva Chan (Certizen)
  • Drummond Reed (Gen)
  • Wenjing Chu (Futurewei)
  • Steve McCown (Anonyome Labs)
  • Dan Bachenheimer (Accenture)
Other nominees?
  • (bio needed)
  • Karla McKenna
  • Nicholas Racz
  • Alex Tweeddale

ACTION: Drummond Reed to check if Alex Tweeddale wishes to be a nominee.

Judith Fleenor also recommends that the ToIP Steering Committee move its meeting time to 2PM PT (5pmET/10pmUTC/11pmCTE - 6am HongKong/9am AU)

5 min2025 Meeting CadenceChairs

How often do we want to meet in 2025? Proposal:

  • Hold TSWG Plenary meetings every four weeks first Tuesday of the month beginning Tuesday Jan 7th
  • Hold two meetings: one at 8AM PT / 16:00 UTC and one at 6PM PT / 02:00 UTC. 
  • The latter meeting will be a TSWG Task Force roll-up meeting for the APAC time zones.

ACTION: The TSWG needs to update this list:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uvZQXqmiBbfn3w7VS-rl7zgIUg0uZ1KyCDdzhAG57NM/edit?tab=t.0

These new meeting times will be on the LFX Meeting Platform starting in 2025.

Judith Fleenor explained that we may also want to look at their meeting tools, including note-taking. Also, everyone should register their LFX ID.  Here's where you can test:

https://organization.lfx.linuxfoundation.org/company/dashboard


Repo managementJudith Fleenor

We really need a second primary repo management person.

ACTION: Drummond Reed to add this to the agenda for the first meeting in January. Judith also recommends talking to the LFDT staff about that.

5 min
  • Review decisions/action items
  • Planning for next meeting 
Chairs

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The Linux Foundation standards team advised us that this can be accomplished by the new TSWG-3 passing a motion adopting this policy as our official operating procedure and displaying the following notice (alongside the standard LF antitrust notice) in all WG proceedings:

NOTICE: In addition to the licensing terms of this Working Group’s JDF charter, this Working Group operates under the official policy that any Working Group Participant who makes a contribution to a Draft Deliverable shall have a maximum of 45 days from the date of that contribution to exclude any Essential Claims pertaining to that contribution.

A new TSWG-3 charter that makes no changes in scope but only changes the IPR terms to Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license for copyright and W3C Mode for patents was approved by the ToIP Steering Committee at their meeting on 13 November 2024.

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