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Transcript: Attendees:
Wenjing Chu
Anita Rao Daniel Bachenheimer
@@@andy woodruff
Eric Drury
Judith Fleenor
Neil Thomson
Steven Milstein
Main Goal of this Meeting
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| Time | Agenda Item | Lead | Notes |
| 5 min | - Start recording
- Welcome & antitrust notice
- Introduction of new members
- Agenda review
- Assigning minutes taker
| Chairs | - Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws.
- ToIP Policy: Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.
- ToIP TSWG IPR Policy: see TF wiki page. AI & Metaverse Technology Task Force. Please remember that TSWG2 has transitioned to a new IPR policy using OWF license.
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| 15 mins | - Introduction of new members
- Any general announcements news, that could be of interest to the TF
- Last week's action items
| All | - DISCUSSION : AI's "trustworthiness" - what does it mean?
- OpenAI's ChatGPT search
- Anthropic's ID verification
- Personhood ID
- Notes
- Two aspects of a LLM based search wrt trustworthiness from the consumer's perspective
- LLM's understanding of user intent - intentionality & how LLM decides to act on it - whether the LLM acts for the benefit of the user
- LLM's completion and summary of the search: whether good sources are found and sources are clearly cited and easy to follow up with.
- Personhood ID
- Identity of the creator - separation of rights and responsibilities
- Identity of the controller - delegation of authority
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| 35 mins | White Paper & C2PA and CAWG, TSP
| | - Recap of Eric Scouten and Wenjing Chu presentation at IIW.
- Conclusion from the discussion:
- We will describe how TSP can address the transit provenance problem given a C2PA documented content metadata.
- We will also describe other more decentralized methods such as ACDC or VC which can have the benefits of scaling because of their adoption of decentralized IDs and wallets.
- Applications may see pro's and con's in each method and have mixed deployments.
- Continue working on the White Paper (see the link below)
- ACTION ITEMS FROM LAST MEETING
- Neil Thomson will add a small note on C2PA. He will also add for the travel use case.
- Neil Thomson - added the Personalized Travel & AI section, made a number of comments on Authenticity and use of C2PA vs a more generic Content Authenticity Framework
- ACTION ITEMS
- AI Agents/bots will be making changes to the work items created. How do we verify the identity of these agents in the workflow for creating/modifying creatives? (Wenjing Chu will take this and propose)
PS : Older notes:- Have an edited final version by the end of Sept.
- Ready to publish by the beginning of October (before IIW)
- We considered doing a series of blogs first, but due to the above time schedule, we decided to complete the white paper first and then a series of short blogs on each of the main points.
Invited all contributors to: - contribute a concise description of use cases (shorten them to keep the early section short)
- feedbacks on structure
- any other feedback, critiques, ideas
- ACTION ITEMS
- AI Agents/bots will be making changes to the work items created. How do we verify the identity of these agents in the workflow for creating/modifying creatives? (Wenjing Chu will take this and propose)
PS : Older notes: |
| 5 mins | - Review decisions/action items
- Planning for next meeting
- AOB
| Chairs | NEW ACTIONS from the previous meeting postponed to the next meeting. |
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