• Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.
• New Members: 

Henk van Cann : DIDAS presentation Aug 30 link ; they want a workshop

•  Kyle RobinsonConcerning last week's question: Keep the reference the old one, there's now a large banner at the top of the previous ToIP Glossary. What happens to github.io page when you archive the repo? 
•  Kor Dwarshuis pointed out that the GitHub API can throttle requests if there are too many filtering requests. I'm not sure whether this point persists, have to ask Kor Dwarshuis.
  
  
•  Kyle Robinson asked if there was a way to reference a specific "version" of the ToIP Glossary as of a specific point in time (and not just to specific definitions within the ToIP Glossary at that point in time). He shared this link as an example: Tenure and Resource Stewardship Branch Governance Framework | Digital Trust Toolkit (bcgov.github.io) → Issue Time-travel
•  Neil Thomson gave the example of being able to look at the whole set of definitions that are present in the ToIP Glossary at a point in time.Henk van Cann I agreed with this functionality, as it would be a "game changer" because it would enable a specification or other document to fully externally reference those definitions in the ToIP Glossary as of that specific date and time. → Issue Time-travel
•  ACTION: Henk van Cann and Kor Dwarshuis to propose a design for this functionality to be able to reference a term—or an entire version of the ToIP Glossary—by a date, such that all glossary items have at most that date in their GitHub date-time stamp, i.e., it is a historical lookup. They will also look at the option of creating periodic versions as "snapshots" of the ToIP Glossary (as HTML and/or PDF) with their own URLs. The Snapshot and Timetravel are strongly related. We have to look into the use cases of both.

•  Kor Dwarshuis pointed out that the GitHub API can throttle requests if there are too many filtering requests. Not sure whether this point persists.
•  Neil Thomson brought up the option of taking snapshots of the ToIP Glossary for "official major releases" periodically, such as quarterly. Kor agreed that such snapshots could be "frozen snapshots". What is the use case?
•  Judith Fleenor "I always thought that was in the design.  But that was before we went to spec up.  The author of a document, when they make a ref to a def, need to know that def will not change later." Henk van Cann clarified that this will be true for specifically xrefs; refs to def within one terminology repo have to be kept in sync with the concepts in the specification by hand.

•  URL Configuration
  •  Henk van Cann said this is possible in a few ways, including a DNS CNAME. Asked Brian Richter for help.
  •  Drummond Reed said that any link to the first URL, including an anchor, should redirect to the second URL, plus the anchor. Forwarders have to be designed and made operational and also put a burden on future maintenance. 

Concerning this there was a question of Brian Richter 
A. whether we'd prefer to use glossary.trustoverip.org rather than trustoverip.github.io/glossary and onwards glossary.trustoverip.org/#term:acdc for the permanent links to the latest version of that term definition (example 'acdc').
B. Note: currently, we use https://trustoverip.github.io/ctwg-main-glossary/#term:acdc . We'll try to redirect this URL to the URL chosen under A.

Slack discussion
@DrummondReed: Elevating our glossary to the DNS subdomain level would — I believe — give us the best chance at long-lived links (because that link doesn’t rely on github). If you and other CTWG members agree, then my vote would be for glossary.trustoverip.org/#term:name. What does everyone think?
@EricScouten: I'm a big fan of this approach. Own your own data, my friends!
@HenkvanCann: I am a proponent of glossary.trustoverip.org/#term:name if it's doable.
Decision: glossary.trustoverip.org is preferable
@DrummondReed:What do we need to do (technically) to “make it so”? Also, in addition to http://glossary.trustoverip.org/#term:name, it would IMHO be ideal if http://glossary.trustoverip.org/#name worked as well. I believe the latter could just link to the heading for the term (if all headings were automatically bookmarks, which I believe is how Spec-Up works).

•  @HenkvanCann: This is the question I asked @Brian Richter. I think that http://glossary.trustoverip.org/#name can cause ambiguity with a "normal" header with the same name as a term. But I am not sure. We have to delve into this.
  Decision: ?
  
  
•  RESCHEDULE 

• Kent Bull blog post with a step-by-step, Carly offered to test.

Henk van Cann  

•  Do we have a standard procedure for:
•  Proposing edits to existing terms in the ToIP Glossary? - see last meeting
•  Proposing new terms to be included in the ToIP Glossary? Same, PRs or directly when user right sufficient (with great power comes great responsibility)
•  Never delete a term definition, just revoke the definition and forward to new terms that cover the concept. How? Edit the term, including an optional link
•  Discuss what steps remain to publish an official ToIP Glossary V1 specification by the end of August
  The remaining issues in Issues here: https://github.com/blockchainbird/spec-up-t/issues. August is too enthusiastic. Let's try to make IIW autumn 2024.
  Note: the home of Spec-Up-T might become trustoverip or DIF. Temporarily at Blockchainbird.org.
•  ACTION: Henk and Kor need a Spec-Up-T repo at trustoverip

Rieks Joosten Henk van Cann 

•  How to cope with multiple / singular versions of terms, with/without dashes. etc TEv2 tooling?
  Rieks has put a proposal in Slack July 1 CTWG chat. Already added in draft to Terminology Governance Guide. We will discuss this.

All

Henk van Cann

Spec-Up-T User Guide

RESCHEDULE: Governance Guide.

•  A new chapter in the draft, after talking to DIDAS people (see announcement above):
  https://trustoverip.github.io/ctwg-terminology-governance-guide/#audiences-and-languages

Every meeting a new aspect to discuss and decide upon. https://trustoverip.github.io/ctwg-terminology-governance-guide/

•  ACTION: Henk van Cann is to report on progress of this project at the next meeting. This week's discussion: https://trustoverip.github.io/ctwg-terminology-governance-guide/#user-manual-defs-refs-and-xrefs changes updated since version of March 2024

Darrell O'Donnell

 Neil Thomson Drummond Reed  

Spec-Up tips & tricks As we have many specifications in flight I have been compiling some SpecUp tips & tricks

•  ACTION: Coordinate with Darrell O'Donnell on a "cheat sheet" for Spec-Up with input from Drummond Reed and Neil Thomson. 
•  ACTION: Drummond Reed to start the Spec-Up conversion process for the ToIP Technology Architecture Specification and record any key questions or issues.