Meeting Date & Time

04 Oct 2023 This Task Force meets every Wednesday. There are two meetings to serve different time zones:

NA/EU meeting: 08:00-09:00 PT / 15:00-16:00 UTC
APAC meeting: 18:00-19:00 PT / 01:00-02:00 UTC

See the Calendar of ToIP Meetings for exact meeting dates, times and Zoom links.

Zoom Meeting Links / Recordings

NA/EU Meeting: https://zoom.us/rec/share/hqO1VT2zhYCpS3Tt-iuda70MAmiK4okGR-HeLvyVfJrJ52zqMEc6cIDb0CbUdlTn.wByEhFfd5ubDrvnz
APAC Meeting: NO MEETING

Attendees

NA/EU:

APAC: NO MEETING

Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)

Time	Agenda Item	Lead	Notes
3 min	Start recording Welcome & antitrust notice New member introductions Agenda review	Leads	Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role. New Members:
2 min	Review of previous action items	Leads	ACTION: Drummond Reed to start a Github discussion on the VID appraisability framework in section 2.1.5. ACTION: ALL TSPTF MEMBERS review the Github discussion once posted and decide if you want to contribute to the VID appraisability framework in section 2.1.5. ACTION: Wenjing Chu, in the subsection of Messages on nesting, to include the pattern of applying a source signature on the plain text first, before nesting, in order to support that requirement for legally valid digital signatures in certain jurisdictions.
10 mins	Review Appraisability Framework discussion	Drummond Reed	See the opening post. ACTION: ALL TSPTF MEMBERS review the Github discussion on appraisability framework criteria and contribute your proposed criteria.
40 mins	Working Draft Progress Review	Wenjing Chu	Wenjing shared this Google doc NA/EU discussion: Sam Smith suggested that the sender should not be optional in the baseline protocol. If it was necessary to have an optional sender, that could be an edge case that we could add later. Wenjing and Drummond agreed. So we will make it required. ACTION: Wenjing Chu to make sender VID required in the Working Draft. Wenjing next went over the message structure (see screenshots #4 - #10). ACTION: Wenjing Chu to review section 3.4.1 to see about adding an optional signature on the plaintext within the ciphertext. ACTION: Wenjing Chu to review section 3.4.2 to decide if the ciphertext block can be removed. We discussed that there is no need for the innermost layer of nesting to be encrypted because it is already protected by at least one outer layer. ACTION: Wenjing Chu to add an explanation of why the innermost layer can use a different envelope format than the outer layer. ACTION: Drummond Reed and Wenjing Chu to coordinate with Kevin Griffin to set up the repo for the Working Draft with the goal of being converted over to drafting in Markdown by our next meeting in two weeks.
5 mins	IIW Topic Proposals	All	Discuss potential/planned TSPTF topics for Internet Identity Workshop next week.
5 mins	Review decisions/action items Planning for next meeting	Leads	NOTE: NO MEETINGS NEXT WEEK due to IIW.

Screenshots/Diagrams (numbered for reference in notes above)

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Decisions

None

Action Items

ACTION: ALL TSPTF MEMBERS review the Github discussion on appraisability framework criteria and contribute your proposed criteria.
ACTION: Wenjing Chu to make sender VID required in the Working Draft.
ACTION: Wenjing Chu to review section 3.4.1 to see about adding an optional signature on the plaintext within the ciphertext.
ACTION: Wenjing Chu to review section 3.4.2 to decide if the ciphertext block can be removed.
ACTION: Wenjing Chu to add an explanation of why the innermost layer can use a different envelope format than the outer layer.
ACTION: Drummond Reed and Wenjing Chu to coordinate with Kevin Griffin to set up the repo for the Working Draft with the goal of being converted over to drafting in Markdown by our next meeting in two weeks.

2023-10-04 TSPTF Meeting Notes