2025 Steering Committee Meeting Notes Summary

2025 Steering Committee Meeting Notes Summary

This page contains a copy of the content from the Steering Committee’s Meeting Notes Page. Note that meetings are in reverse chronological order.

2025-12-17

  1. Reminder of the normal LF antitrust warning (see above).

    1. john@sezoo.digital proposes that SC meetings should “record and publish” by default, with the ability to pause the recording for any matter where an SC member requests it to not be recorded.

  2. Introductions

    1. Alan Davies, CTO of Digital Trust Foundry.

    2. Has been working in the space for 7+ years.

    3. Developed and sold CredentialMaster to Salesforce.

    4. Continuing to develop on KERI and ACDCs.

  3. Review of the proposed ToIP Approved Deliverable Process.

  4. Recommendation on how the KERI Suite Working Group can most expeditiously complete this process for their WG Approved Deliverables.

    1. ACTION: Drummond to communicate to Karla and Nicholas that we have a strawman. 

  5. Steering Committee Election

  6. AOB

 

2025-11-26

  1. Recording and uploading of SC meetings

    1. Reminder to start meetings with the normal LF antitrust warning

    2. john@sezoo.digital proposes that SC meetings should “record and publish” by default, with the ability to pause the recording for any matter where an SC member requests it to not be recorded.

  2. Discuss the general process for reviewing specifications

    1. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Flg39S4grM9xWfqXjHILdn_Y_cUg5x_EgUftQbIwySc/edit?tab=t.0

    2. Karla proposed that the WG should hold a public review that includes external experts before it holds its final WG approval vote.

    3. Makki suggested the deliverable should also have review by other ToIP WGs as part of its Public Review cycle.

      1. In addition, he suggests that the SC approval should have another public feedback cycle.

    4. John suggests that the SC should have the right to ask for another public review.

    5. Karla wants to avoid the danger of it becoming an excessive length process.

      1. She suggests that there be one more WG level review for feedback from other WGs or external experts.

      2. That should be for a limited period of time.

      3. Any comments received should be resolved by the WG.

      4. Then the WG makes a final submission to the SC.

      5. The SC needs to determine what is acceptable for SC approval.

    6. Carly proposed that the process include a report to the SC with the checklist.

    7. Scott proposed that the SC process be very light. The body of the work of preparing the evidence for the SC necessary to approve the deliverable.

      1. We need to have the checklist given to the WG that they complete first.

      2. One member of the SC agrees to be liaison to the WG to oversee fulfilling the checklist.

      3. The liaison then reports back to the SC with a completed checklist.

    8. Karla agrees with Scott that the primary areas where the SC should be verifying that the WG followed the process and meets the SC requirements of the checklist.

    9. Scott clarified that the checklist should cover categories:

      1. Housekeeping and style guide conformance (“look and feel”)

      2. JDF process conformance

    10. Drummond proposed a third category: WG and ToIP mission alignment

      1. Scott gave an example of answering checklist questions about alignment.

    11. Drummond proposed that we take the action item to fully document the entire process discussed above on the ToIP wiki, including the requirements about the report the WG needs to submit to the SC.

      1. ACTION: The SC appoints an ad-hoc committee consisting of Drummond Reed, Nicholas Racz, Scott Perry, and Karla McKenna to prepare a checklist with a deadline of EOD Friday December 5th. This will be conveyed to the KERI Suite WG to fill out and return to the SC.

  3. Discuss the specific approval process of KERI, ACDC, CESR specifications—Karla McKenna

    1. https://github.com/trustoverip/kswg-cesr-specification  

    2. https://github.com/trustoverip/kswg-keri-specification  

    3. https://github.com/trustoverip/kswg-acdc-specification

  4. Webpage Clean-up—Carly Huitema

    1. Form a committee to update the webpage and streamline it

    2. ACTION: The SC appoints a committee consisting of Carly Huitema, Drummond Reed, and Keren Leung to create a streamlined new ToIP website working with Ben Thomas.

  5. GitHub Clean-up—Drummond Reed & Ry

    1. Form a committee to update to GitHub and streamline it.

    2. John What we need is a GitHub repo retention strategy (sox anyone?) - perhaps we "just" move the old stuff to something like an archive space and defer the delete decision?… we probably need a whole policy around data/document retention.

    3. Carly proposed that we move GitHub cleanup to the New Year.

  6. Confluence support continuing for ToIP?

    1. Daniella will check with Ry about that and she will get back to us.

  7. Adding the hourglass to the 3rd generation ToIP stack diagram set—John Phillips

    1. It was Wenjing’s presentation of the TSP where he used the hourglass diagram to show that the TSP is the spanning 

  8. Symposium follow-up—All

    1. Should we author a blog post with an index of links to the talks and some overall themes?

    2. Daniela was being modest about “just following the playbook”

    3. She showed how it is being published on the LFDT ToIP Symposium page.

  9. Planning ahead to the Linux Foundation Member Summit, the CFP is out https://events.linuxfoundation.org/lf-member-summit/program/cfp/#overview  

2025-10-15

  1. Revised date for Q4 All-Member Meeting: December 10 (5 min)

    1. Can include a debrief/recap of the ToIP Symposium

    2. Also our holiday party

  2. Switchover from Slack to Discord (5 min)

    1. Images can be posted if a person has the proper permissions

    2. Current usage

    3. Slack usage

    4. User issues (posting pictures, moderating)

  3. Report on new WGs (10 min)

    1. AI & Human Trust WG

      1. This elevated the former TSWG AI & Human Trust TF to a WG

      2. DIF has also opened a new Trusted AI Agents WG

    2. Decentralized Trust Graph Working Group

      1. Kickoff was Sept 24

      2. 37 attendees between AM/EU and APAC meetings

      3. Is now meeting weekly on Wednesdays at 08:00 and 18:00 UTC

      4. Is forming 3 task forces

        1. Risk Assessment and Harms Prevention TF 

        2. Credentials TF 

        3. R-Cards TF

  4. TAC election and Maintainer Days — David Boswell (5 mins)

    1. See details below

    2. Drummond asked about how “maintainers” maps across to the work in a JDF emerging standards — David think is roughly equivalent to a Chair

    3. ACTION: Drummond Reed to send an email to the SC about this

  5. ToIP Symposium (15 min)

    1. Webpage and schedule (next planning meeting) 

    2. Promotion - needs

    3. Registration - status and update

    4. Planning for recordings

    5. Possible new final Day 1 talk on “The Human Stack”?

  6. SEDI (State-Endorsed Digital Identity) and ToIP — Scott Perry (15 mins)

    1. See screenshot below

    2. Scott explained the Utah State legislature has passed the first SEDI law

    3. Scott is attending this conference: https://www.uvu.edu/herbertinstitute/data_governance/state_endorsed_digital_identity_summit.html  

    4. Scott shared that he felt this could have one of the biggest areas of impact of our work at ToIP for the past five years

  7. Internet Identity Workshop and new Agentic Internet Workshop (5 min)

    1. The First Person Project plans to hold 5 or 6 sessions, many of which will focus on ToIP specs (TSP, TRAP) and DTGWG

    2. Ayra Association will be holding sessions on TRQP

    3. Other sessions?

  8. LFDT will be having its annual event in Jersey City, January 28-29

    1. Hosted by DTC

    2. Daniela is headed out to Asia for the next few weeks

      1. Hong Kong

      2. Korea

      3. Singapore Fintech Summit

    3. Daniela said that all requests to join have been onboard as a Contributing Member

      1. They are also updating all the contributor names automatically on the website

      2. Daniela is planning on doing an update to all Contributor companies; that campaign will be going on next week

    4. Carly asked for some help on the Bite-Sized Trust page on the ToIP website

    5. Karen said that they will be having a vLEI hackathon as part of the upcoming event

Details from David Boswell about the LFDT TAC Election and Maintainer Days (Email to SC from 2025-10-14)

I wanted to follow up with updates on the TAC election and Maintainer Days on January 26-27.

  • For the Maintainer Day's agenda we're also looking for maintainers who would like to run sessions. If there are any topics you'd like to propose for the event, please let us know and we'll work with you to get that scheduled.

If you have any questions about the election or Maintainer Days, feel free to let us know.

Screenshot from Scott Perry

Agenda Planning for 2025-09-24 ToIP All-Member Meeting

  1. Welcome

  2. Switchover from Slack to Discord 

    1. All channels have been set up

    2. Instructions on joining the LFDT Discord Server

    3. Instructions on filtering channels

    4. The new DTGWG will begin using it immediately

    5. All others are strongly encouraged to switch over by the end of Sept

    6. Proposed end-of-life for the ToIP Slack is October 31

  3. ToIP & DIF WGs on trust and AI agents — See the LFDT blog post

    1. ToIP AI and Human Trust WG (AIM WG)

      1. Continuation of former AIM Task Force

      2. Will focus on achieving trust in AI agents using the ToIP stack

    2. DIF Trusted AI Agents WG

      1. Superset of above — will focus on all the issues around trust in AI agents

  4. Launch of Decentralized Trust Graph Working Group

    1. First meeting Sept 24

    2. Charter

    3. Preliminary task forces

  5. ToIP Symposium

    1. Dates

    2. Format

    3. Submissions

    4. Schedule

    5. Request for volunteers

  6. Internet Identity Workshop

    1. VRM Day

    2. IIW Sessions

    3. New Agentic AI Workshop

2025-09-17

  1. Completing the 2024 ToIP report for LFDT SC

    1. Previous Action -  Drummond to prepare a report by:

      • Providing a link to the last all-hands meeting.

      • Provide a quarterly report for the last quarter.

    2. Status

  2. Symposium Planning

    1. Announced dates — November 19-20 

    2. Current proposed topics for Day 1

      • ToIP Overview: Champions = Makki & Eric & Drummond

      • C2PA & CAWG: Champions = Scott & Eric Scouten

      • TSP Adoption — Champions = Wenjing and Drummond

      • KERI-based topic — Champion = Nico

      • AI, Human Trust, and Agentic AI — Champions = Wenjing & Steven & Eric

      • First Person Project & DTGWG — Champion = Drummond

      • ZKP for the Decentralized Trust Graph — Champions = Drummond and Hart Montgomery

      • Trust registries & TRQP — Champion = Darrell

      • GLEIF Hackathon (Nov 7th Hong Kong) — Champions = Karla and Keren

    3. Proposals for Day 2 workshops?

      • GLEIF Hackathon prep as a workshop topic?

        1. Nicho suggests Kent Bull or Kevin Griffin to coordinate

      • Possible TSP / Trust Task workshop?

      • LF Kernel & First Person Credential

    4. Sending out sign-up forms prepared by Carly - STATUS

    5. PR/Social support starting the first week of September

      • Blog post? - STATUS

    6. Other logistics

  3. Launch of new Working Groups and Task Forces

    1. LFDT Announcement - ACTION: Drummond to prepare blog post for the LFDT blog - DONE  https://www.lfdecentralizedtrust.org/blog/toip-and-dif-announce-three-new-working-groups-for-trust-in-the-age-of-ai?hs_amp=true  

    2. ACTION: Drummond will work with Daniela to schedule the first meeting for the second week of Sept.

    3. ACTION: Drummond and Daniela to follow up with Kim Duffy to invite DIF members to be part of the DTGWG

    4. The Joint ToIP/DIF Decentralized Trust Graph Working Group

Two kickoff meetings for the DTGWG are scheduled for Wednesday 24 September:

  • North America/Europe: 08:00-09:00 PT / 15:00-16:00 UTC

  • APAC: 18:00-19:00 PT / 01:00-02:00 UTC

Details for joining the meetings can be found in the ToIP community calendar.

  1. The ToIP AI and Human Trust Working Group

    • Thursdays: 09:00-10:00 PT / 16:00-17:00 UTC

  2. The DIF Trusted AI Agents Working Group

  1. Update on KERI Foundation - associate membership - Daniela

    1. Daniela reported that they the KERI Foundation is planning to join as an Associate Member - STATUS

  2. AOB

  3.  

2025-08-20

  1. Completing the 2024 ToIP report for LFDT SC

    1. Wenjing reported that in the last LFDT TAC meeting, the TAC suggested that we could submit the report in whatever format we chose was best.

    2. Wenjing suggests we submit a report based on the last All-Members meeting.

    3. ACTION: Drummond to prepare a report by:

      • Providing a link to the last all-hands meeting.

      • Provide a quarterly report for the last quarter.

    4. Links to examples:

  2. 1-9-90 Discussion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule

    1. Why we are bringing up this topic

    2. How does this apply to the SC?

    3. How should it guide our work at ToIP

    4. David provided this: Presentation about how to raise the profile of a LFDT project: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/13nji_R-op77ERT-AV3-CbOOZwAOjtvq33RRGnjpL3Gc/edit?usp=sharing  

    5. Nicho mentioned an idea about making ecosystem governance frameworks programmatically enforceable.

      • Scott shared that at the EGWG meeting on Sept 18th is going to have a presentation on governance effectiveness. So that might be relevant.

  3. Symposium Planning

    1. Confirm proposed dates — October 15-16 (week before IIW)

      • New proposed dates = 19-20 November

      • ACTION: Discuss at EGWG meeting tomorrow

    2. Current proposed topics for Day 1

      • ToIP Overview: Champions = Makki & Eric & Drummond

      • C2PA & CAWG: Champions = Scott & Eric Scouten

      • TSP Adoption — Champions = Wenjing and Drummond

      • KERI-based topic — Champion = Nicho

      • AI, Human Trust, and Agentic AI — Champions = Wenjing & Steven & Eric

      • First Person Project & DTGWG — Champion = Drummond

      • ZKP for the Decentralized Trust Graph — Champions = Drummond and Hart Montgomery

      • Trust registries & TRQP — Champion = Darrell

      • GLEIF Hackathon (Nov 7th Hong Kong) — Champions = Karla and Keren

    3. Proposals for Day 2 workshops?

      • GLEIF Hackathon prep as a workshop topic?

        1. Nicho suggests Kent Bull or Kevin Griffin to coordinate

      • Possible TSP / Trust Task workshop?

      • LF Kernel & First Person Credential

    4. Sending out sign-up forms prepared by Carly

    5. PR/Social support starting the first week of September

      • Blog post?

    6. Other logistics

  4. Launch of the Decentralized Trust Graph Working Group — Drummond

    1. First Person Project white paper “advertisement” for DTGWG

    2. Tie-in to CAWG

    3. Tie-in to AI & Human Trust

    4. Timing and logistics

    5. ACTION: Drummond to prepare blog post for the LFDT blog

    6. ACTION: Drummond will work with Daniela to schedule the first meeting for the second week of Sept.

    7. ACTION: Drummond and Daniela to follow up with Kim Duffy to invite DIF members to be part of the DTGWG

  5. Update on KERI Foundation - associate membership - Daniela

    1. Daniela reported that they the KERI Foundation is planning to join as an Associate Member

  6. AOB

  7.  

2025-07-16

  1. Approval of KSWG Task Force: SAID URN Task Force.

    1. See: https://github.com/trustoverip/kswg-said-urn-charter

      1. Purpose: To register a URN for SAID identifiers with IANA.

      2. Meetings: Meeting cadence to be determined

      3. Chair: Carly Huitema

    2. Steering Committee has approved the Task Force

  2. Symposium date set Oct 15-16 (Wed/Thurs)

    1. Establish a committee to manage event organization

      1. Still need to establish a date for event organization.

      2. Will do this in concert with Drummond when he returns next week.

      3. Looking for representation across ToIP WG and TFs

    2. Draft symposium document 

  3. Follow up on previous action items (as posted in slack last week)

    1. Action item: @Wenjing Chu will give us a template that we need to fill out. ANNUAL REPORT

    2. Action item: @Scott Perry will fill out the template with our existing material and bring it back to the working groups and steering committee for answers he is unable to answer from our current documentation.

    3. ACTION: Daniela will talk to Henk van Cann about the KERI Foundation becoming an Associate Member of LFDT.

    4. ACTION: Daniella will be putting together a document with Tomaz, to be shared with the steering committee (Symposium outline) - >>see above

    5. TODO: Put these meeting records from Google Docs into the Wiki

 

Attendees with Roles:

●      Carly Huitema: University of Guelph (Co-chair)

●      David Boswell: The Linux Foundation (Staff)

●      Scott Perry: Digital Governance Institute (Co-chair)

●      Makki Elfatih: Hkdolts (Steering Committee Member)

●      John Phillips: Sezoo (Steering Committee Member)

●      Daniela Barbosa: The Linux Foundation (Staff)

●      Wenjing Chu: FutureWei (Steering Committee Member)

●      Neil Thomson: QueryVision (Steering Committee Member)

●      Eric Drury: Forth Consulting (Steering Committee Member)

●      Karla McKenna: (Steering Committee Member)

Main Discussion Points:

●      AI Note-Taking: Discussion about the Zoom room having AI note-taking enabled and how to access the generated summary and transcript.

●      Symposium Planning (October 15-16):

○      Confirmation of dates for the Symposium.

○      Discussion on the format, proposing Day 1 for "vision and work in progress" (C-suite targeting) and Day 2 for deeper technical details, demos, and panel discussions, potentially with concurrent breakout sessions.

○      Need for a Symposium organizing committee, bringing in representatives from technology stack and other areas.

○      Call for Presentations (CFP) process, targeting both Trust over IP working groups/members and associated/contributing members.

○      Timeline for CFP release (4 weeks before the event, aiming for early September).

○      Discussion on presentation slot lengths (30 mins or 1 hour chunks) and whether to allow for longer workshops/discussions on Day 2.

○      Leveraging existing templates and resources for presentations.