Time

Agenda Item

Lead

Notes

5 mins

• Welcome & antitrust notice

• Introduction of new members

• Agenda review

• Recording with transcription is now automatic

Chairs

• Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws.

• ToIP Policy: Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.

• ToIP AIMWG IPR Policy: see WG wiki

10 mins

• Introduction of new members

• Any general announcements news, that could be of interest to the TF

• To review of action items that are not in the agenda below

All

• Any new members to introduce

• Quick follow up of open action items

  • One action item below

• Events of interests

  • Virtual symposium, Nov 19-20 - https://www.lfdecentralizedtrust.org/trust-over-ip-virtual-symposium-nov-19-20

  • LFDT Maintainer Days - Jan 26-27, Brooklyn, NY Maintainer Days

  • LFDT Member Summit Jersey City - Jan 28-29. https://www.lfdecentralizedtrust.org/events/member-summit-202526?hsLang=en

  • LFDT Seattle meetup (zoom): “Empowering AI Agent Protocols with TSP and First Person Credentials”

    • @Wenjing Chu and @Drummond Reed will jointly present to LFDT/hyperledger community

    • https://www.meetup.com/lfdt-sf/events/311344613/?eventOrigin=network_page&_gl=1*yy3jv1*_up*MQ..*_ga*MTc2MDg1MjU3MC4xNzYyMzg2MTEw*_ga_NP82XMKW0P*czE3NjIzODYxMTAkbzEkZzAkdDE3NjIzODYxMTAkajYwJGwwJGgw

    • Monday, Nov 10th

• Any other news to share

45 mins

Beyond data management:

• observable behavior management

• goals management

All

• This continues the topic @Wenjing Chu brought to the WG’s attention to broad the scope of our work from protecting strictly “data” to also restricting behavior and other aspects of somewhat autonomous agents

  • Continuing this line of discussion

    • Is it fair to say ‘micro-sharing’ or ‘zkp’ is applicable to a small part of the data sharing problem, in majority cases, sharing massively is going to be the ‘norm’/common case. the group thinks yes.

    • Contextual sharing as Daniel Hardman writeup: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NoSE4YPNc-x4T3ZxFq6iycJ51BcniXpdVolKjM01Srg/edit?usp=drive_link

    • @Wenjing Chu Proposal (at least one of them): treat AI agents as “medical devices” like FDA is reportedly considering. And this produces a workable framework where technical and governance solutions can be framed, designed, implemented coherently. - Agreed.

      • My terms: https://standards.ieee.org/ieee/7012/7192/

      • terms of conditions - AI can help.

      • guardian agents, the 4th party --- https://glossary.trustoverip.org/#term:fourth-party

      • decision support systems, risk graph, explainability of AI

      • https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/digital-health-center-excellence/request-public-comment-measuring-and-evaluating-artificial-intelligence-enabled-medical-device?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery

      • https://loyalagents.org/   Doc is their 'chief intention officer'

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  • Planning future work

    • Next meeting is Dec 4 - we should come back with diagrams and identifying work proposals.

      • Next week is canceled because of toip symposium

      • The week after is canceled because of US Thanksgiving

      • See you Dec 4.

    • Propose to Xmas special - using AI last meeting before Xmas

  • etc.

0 mins

Action Items

All

1. List action items to follow up

   1. AIMWG in Google Drive is still under Tech Stack WFG - needed to elevate AIM to WG level

      1. There seems to be problems at the moment - so wait until it settles.