Time

Agenda Item

Lead

Notes

5 mins

• Welcome & antitrust notice

• Introduction of new members

• Agenda review

• Recording with transcription is now automatic

Chairs

• Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws.

• ToIP Policy: Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.

• ToIP AIMWG IPR Policy: see WG wiki

10 mins

• Introduction of new members

• Any general announcements news, that could be of interest to the TF

• To review of action items that are not in the agenda below

All

• Any new members to introduce

• Quick follow up of open action items

  • One action item below

• Any news to share

  • Virtual symposium, Nov 19-20 - Trust Over IP Virtual Symposium

  • LFDT Member Summit Jersey City - Jan 28-29. Member Summit 2025/26

  • Atlas browser

    • privacy concerns are being studied, ai browser vs. ‘normal’ browser - what information is being disclosed

35 mins

• Last week’s conferences recap

All

• IIW last week + Agentic Internet Workshop

  • Wenjing attended the Friday workshop, work on oauth alternatives, the FPP

• PyTorch conference + Open Agent Summit

  • @Wenjing Chu attended in SF. RL is being researched for the next stage of LLM which has different “governance” approaches, from data management to behavior management, goals management

  • @Nicky Hickman ethical trust framework: roles and processes, ethical decision making framework/mechanism that support the principles. Reference this roles/process definition model: Parties, Actors and Actions | eSSIF-Lab and see if we could improve upon. Or inspiration here: A New Approach to Teaching Ethical Decision Making to Accounting Students - The CPA Journal

  • @Wenjing Chu introduced the difference between observable behavior of an LLM vs. internal processing structure of LLM. The latter is much more difficult to observe or govern than the tokens in and out or chain of thoughts outputs.

  • continues this line of discussion next week…

10 mins

• TFs recap

All

• the Framework TF (time of meeting, scope): update : still not yet settled. @Eric Drury

  • Include/absorbs the use case work and the UX work

• the AI Agent Protocols over TSP TF (to be formally organized as a TF but does not intend to create new meetings)

  • Spec will be documented in a Github repo. Discussions will be held in this WG meeting and WG Discord.

  • Generalization to be attempted - so instead of restricted to MCP over TSP, will be more like X over TSP where X can be MCP, A2A, and others.

  • Can have a demo & open Q&A during the virtual Symposium Nov 19-20.

0 mins

Action Items

All

1. List action items to follow up

   1. AIMWG in Google Drive is still under Tech Stack WFG - needed to elevate AIM to WG level

      1. There seems to be problems at the moment - so wait until it settles.