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Attendees:
@Wenjing Chu
@Nicky Hickman
@Neil Thomson
@Eric Drury
@Jim Mason
@Makki Elfatih
@mitchell Travers
@shafatyet Ahmed
Karen Ottomi
Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)
Time
Agenda Item
Lead
Notes
5 mins
Welcome & antitrust notice
Introduction of new members
Agenda review
Recording with transcription is now automatic
Chairs
Antitrust Policy Notice:Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws.
ToIP Policy: Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.
Who is attending IIW week (Oct 20-24) in person? Presentations?
50 mins
Organize WG’s work in defined threads/initiatives.
MAY become a TF, but not necessary (if not a TF, we will have standing agenda items for each in the WG call).
Better defined goals and deliverables
Fit the AIMWG charter
Complimentary relationships
ALL
@Wenjing Chu
The names are placeholders. Please add names who would like to help lead the initiatives.
Anything else to include in the top level to better define & organize these initiatives within the WG?
Currently active/proposed initiatives are as follows.
AI Agent Protocols over TSP @Wenjing Chu
Goal: apply TSP and ToIP stack (technical and gov) to ai agent protocols to help strengthen trust relationship between ai agents and people.
Deliverables: (1) a protocol specification, (2) an experimental implementation (3) protocol integration: mcp, a2a, … (4) demo apps (5) analysis of security and trust assurances
Plan: 2H 2025 for initial draft/prototype
Fit the AIMWG charter: apply ToIP to AI agents
Its design will leverage TSP, DID, VC, and and human trust principles that can come out of 2, 3, 4 work threads. It can be used in other initiatives as technical means, including other WGs in or outside of ToIP. It’s of course closely related to AI agent protocols e.g. MCP, A2A, ANP, etc.
@Wenjing Chu commented that part of this work was creating a meta-pattern that showed how to apply TSP to any protocol.
Use Cases to illustrate trust relationships between AI agents and Humans @Chi Hwa Tang@Neil Thomson
Goals
Deliverables
Plan: may be also be part of the trust framework TF
Fit the AIMWG charter
Complimentary Relationships
Trustworthy AI Agent framework TF @Eric Drury
Goals: Introduce a broad and easy-to-navigate trust framework in order that builders, deployers, and users of AI Agent products and services can assess and signal the trustworthiness of those products and services.
Plan: Q4-25: Framework alignment, Information collating and organising; Q1-26: Introduction with White Paper.
Fit the AIMWG charter: Addresses both technical AND human elements
Complimentary Relationships: DIF Agent WG…
TF’s meeting time/chairs/scope: Tuesdays 4pm CEST
@Neil Thomson note Moves to circumvent personal agents for online purchases?
Example: Google has integrated Gemini in Chrome - which will support handling your purchases for any web page in the browser, have you not given up control over your (bank & credit card) accounts?
@mitchell is telling stories!
Human Experience aspects of AI and Human Trust @Nicky Hickman
Goals
TBD at Symposium session
Deliverables
Plan:
Consider to be a part of trust framework task force
Fit the AIMWG charter
Complimentary Relationships
0 mins
Action Items
ALL
List action items to follow up
AP2
Update the WG wiki page with the introduction of the active work threads