2025-09-25 AIM WG Meeting Notes

2025-09-25 AIM WG Meeting Notes

Meeting Date & Time

  • Sep 25, 2025 

    • 09:00-10:00 PT / 16:00-17:00 UTC 

Zoom Meeting Links / Recordings

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Recordings: you can find them in LFX calendar (along with transcripts). We no longer manually add the links here.

Attendees:

  • @Wenjing Chu

  • @Steven Milstein

  • @Neil Thomson

  • @Nicky Hickman

  • @geun-Hyung Kim

  • @Drummond Reed

  • @shafayet Ahmed

  • @mitchell Travers

  • Lindsay Walker

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Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)

Time

Agenda Item

Lead

Notes

5 mins

  • Welcome & antitrust notice

  • Introduction of new members

  • Agenda review

  • Recording with transcription is now automatic

Chairs

  • Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws.

  • ToIP Policy: Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.

  • ToIP AIMWG IPR Policy: see WG wiki

5 mins

  • Introduction of new members

  • Any general announcements news, that could be of interest to the TF

  • To review of action items that are not in the agenda below

All

30 mins

Open Discussion : Leveraging the layered Trust over IP stack for AI Agents

aka What should the AIMWG be focusing on (and its potential relationship to other WGs in the broader community).

ALL

@Wenjing Chu

  • AIMWG charter: trust for ai and ai for trust

  • ToIP’s layered architecture is our differentiator (Trust tasks over TSP)

  • Partner/complement with AI agent protocols and frameworks (they are the higher layer)

  • Current activities to contribute to. Collectively formulate a unique solution.

    1. TMCP/TA2A: defining the core protocol - how AI Agent protocols use TSP as the foundation of trust

    2. Agent Trust framework: to better articulate our solution as a general framework (date TBD)

      1. Need Eric to cover in more details

    3. Use cases: to better illustrate common patterns & trust workflows

  • Relation to

    • DTG: DTG’s solution is also built on TSP. DTG’s output (the graph) can be used in agent and person identities. (Similarly, FPP is also built on TSP).

      • Common identifiers: did:webvh, did:scid, …

    • DIF TAIAWG appears to focus on higher layers - if so - then AIMWG’s output will be beneficial to their work, although it’s still a little early. The blog post states their first work is to study “agentic authority work flows” about agent delegation.

      • Open question: DIDComm vs TSP. Recap earlier discussion on running DIDComm messages over TSP.

  • Other related activities

    • Add here other related orgs/activities

    • Agentic Internet Workshop (the Friday of the IIW)

    • NANDA

    • MAESTRO

    • NIST CFP

    • AP2

    • DIF Hospitality and Travel WG

    • Stanford HAI loyalagents.org

    •  

10 mins

Quick updates:

  • Trustworthy AI Agent Framework TF

  • TMCP/TA2A. Running AI Agent Protocols over TSP

  • Use Cases

@Eric Drury @Wenjing Chu @Chi Hwa Tang

  • A quick update

  • Consider incorporating user cases in framework?

10 mins

ToIP Symposium & Other Outputs/Deliverables

ALL

Proposal on Symposium:

  • 1 Presentation on Day 1 (Nov 19)

  • 1 Workshop focused on TMCP/TA2A on Day 2 (Nov 20)

@Carly Huitema proposal on bite size videos:

0 mins

Action Items

ALL

  1. List action items to follow up

    1. AP2

    2. Eric is not able to attend in this call but we will resume the discussion on the agent trust framework task force when he’s back.

    3. Nicky raised the importance of human experience and putting human in the the work we do - even if we need to make progress in the short term.

    4. ACTION: we will put this as a regular agenda item to explore on what we could work on and incorporate concepts of human agency into our work.