2025-07-31 AIM WG Meeting Notes

2025-07-31 AIM WG Meeting Notes

Meeting Date & Time

  • Jul 31, 2025 

    • 09:00-10:00 PT / 16:00-17:00 UTC 

Zoom Meeting Links / Recordings

Meetinghttps://zoom-lfx.platform.linuxfoundation.org/meeting/98743834449?password=3d7a687b-f3f2-4125-a8ba-a929cec26e8a

Recordings: you can find them in LFX calendar (along with transcripts). We no longer manually add the links here.

Attendees:

  • @Wenjing Chu

  • @Eric Drury

  • @Neil Thomson

  • @Kyle Robinson

  • @Nicky Hickman

  • @Makki Elfatih

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Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)

Time

Agenda Item

Lead

Notes

5 min

  • Welcome & antitrust notice

  • Introduction of new members

  • Agenda review

  • Recording with transcription is now automatic

Chairs

  • Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws.

  • ToIP Policy: Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.

  • ToIP AIMWG IPR Policy: see WG wiki

10 mins

  • Introduction of new members

  • Any general announcements news, that could be of interest to the TF

  • To review of action items that are not in the agenda below

All

45 mins

Active Track Status Updates & Future Direction

  • TMCP (MCP over TSP) Spec and implementation

  • Canonical Use Case to help better define trust issues with the use of AI agents

  • Trust framework TF proposal

  • Debate on structured data vs. NL text/audio/video

  • Related work elsewhere: compilation of related work

  • Open discussions

ALL

Open planning session to discuss how we may make the WG most productive.

  • TMCP @Wenjing Chu

    • spec first draft end of august (to be published here: https://github.com/trustoverip/aimwg-tmcp-specification )

    • prototype implementation going well

    • reaching out to MCP community - help needed!

    • we will present/demo in toip symposium in october

    • we will present/demo in IIW fall

    • will be presenting in GOSIM conference - Agentic Web track

  • Use Case:

    • check with @Chi Hwa Tang

    • Document available in ToIP AIM WG folder

  • Trustworthy ai framework proposal@Eric Drury

    • looking for a good time for the TF

    • @Eric Drury shares the “identity, purpose, accountability” framework

    • a use case to illustrate the framework

    • covers not just ‘technical stack’ but also ‘governance’

    • Document available in ToIP AIM WG folder

  • @Eric Drury can start a list of related work

  • @Wenjing Chu suggest a blog post on the debate structured vs NL - asking volunteers to join and choose a side of the debate.

  • @Neil Thomson “personal agent” model - a form of auditing/monitoring

    • @Wenjing Chu 's shameless plug: TSP/TMCP will support one form of such auditing, including structured verifiable data, and NL modeling of meaning of the conversation.

0 mins

TRACKING OPEN ACTION ITEMS

ALL