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2025-05-29 AIM WG Meeting Notes

2025-05-29 AIM WG Meeting Notes

Meeting Date & Time

  • May 29, 2025 

    • 09:00-10:00 PT / 16:00-17:00 UTC 

Zoom Meeting Links / Recordings

Meeting: https://zoom.us/j/98931559152?pwd=d0ZwM1JHQ3d5cXRqVTh4NlRHeVJvQT09

Recordings: you can find them in LFX calendar (along with transcripts). We no longer manually add the links here.

Note: We ran into a technical problem with LFX’s zoom meeting room today, and had to quickly set up a separate Zoom for this meeting. The recording is manually saved here: Video Conferencing, Web Conferencing, Webinars, Screen Sharing
Passcode: T1+4KS!%. The recording was also started late. It started from the TMCP topic in the agenda item below.

Attendees:

  • @Neil Thomson

  • @Nicky Hickman

  • @Wenjing Chu

  • @Chi Hwa Tang

  • @Eric Drury

  • @Steven Milstein

Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)

Time

Agenda Item

Lead

Notes

5 min

  • Welcome & antitrust notice

  • Introduction of new members

  • Agenda review

  • Recording with transcription is now automatic

Chairs

  • Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws.

  • ToIP Policy: Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.

  • ToIP TSWG IPR Policy: see TF wiki page 

5 mins

  • Introduction of new members

  • Any general announcements news, that could be of interest to the TF

  • T review of action items that are not in the agenda below

All

  • Any new members to introduce

  • Any news to share

  • Self-reflection on current active work items:

    • Use case document

    • TMCP draft spec

    • Anything else should we be working on?

5 mins

Migration to the AIM WG

ALL

Wiki change: AI & Human Trust Working Group
Slack channel renaming - TBD
Anything else?

10 mins

GDC (Geneva, July 1-2, 2025)

@Wenjing Chu

GDC Agenda and proposed sessions

Global Digital Collaboration Conference (GDC25)

  • A co-curated session with DIF on AI & Trust

  • First person project

  • Other sessions on Day 1 & 2

10 mins

TMCP: TSP powered MCP draft specification

@Wenjing Chu

This work is to produce a draft specification by end of June for a draft specification that integrates TSP with MCP and produce an experimental implementation and demo.

Present it in GDC July 2 in Geneva.

An A2A spec to follow. A paper to follow.

  • Minutes: There is a lot of interest in having a more in depth discussion and to record it for the presentation (not sure if @Wenjing Chu 's presentation to EIC 2025 or GOSIM AI Paris 2025 is recorded).

  • So, Wenjing is going to present to this WG next week.

25

Working Session on Use Cases

@Neil Thomson

@Steven Milstein

Continue on this use case document. Time schedule plan?

I've put up two files as optionsTrust Agent Use Cases.gdoc(google doc)
Trust Agent Use Cases.md(markdown)@Steven Milstein https://hackmd.io/@stevenmilstein/H1ng0o7-gg@Neil Thomson https://trustoverip.slack.com/files/U0161E2T6MN/F08SATK5T1R/personaldataprofileconfidence_v0_2.pptx?origin_team=T014XHHP0P5&origin_channel=C03G3S7BH8U

Next step: Use travel as general background for case studies, but start with a simple scenario first:
Research destination, ... , finally book a ticket.
@Neil Thomson will help reuse some of the existing work at DIF to illustrate this use case
@Nicky Hickman suggested this starting point for glossary: https://trustoverip.slack.com/files/U015LB6L5L3/F08UA1S1R6U/oxford_sbs_artificial_intelligence_module_1_unit_0_glossary.pdf?origin_team=T014XHHP0P5&origin_channel=C03G3S7BH8U
Formulate a list of trust tasks involved in this case
This will be the first starting point. We will re-evaluate the need to expand to more complex use cases in order to better cover all critical aspects.

 

Minutes:

  • We decided to take a practical approach to draft a simplified use case on travel : from researching destinations to booking tickets, for instance. And use that as the first step. @Chi Hwa Tang is to draft a version for the next week’s meeting.

  • We will review the draft next week.

5 mins

TRACKING OPEN ACTION ITEMS

ALL

 

  • OPEN: Does LFDT provide any metrics for the AIM paper published? Downloads, views, etc? Inquiry sent.

    • A blog is due (I hope to finish by this Friday).

  • OPEN: The TSP+C2PA+CAWG white paper:  interest to see it as a specification or implementation? Can be a collaboration between AIM & CAWG (and along with TSP and C2PA respectively). 

    • Reach out to @Eric Scouten for feedback. – Not yet.

  • Some logistic issues:

    • CLOSED? OPEN subscribing to this meeting reported by @Eric Drury

    • CLOSED: getting host code to kick out un-identified bots- reached out to Michelle but waiting for reply.