2025-05-06 TSWG Meeting Notes
Meeting Date and Time
- The TSWG holds a plenary meeting once every month on the first Tuesday.
- There are two editions of the plenary meeting to accommodate global time zones:
- The NA/EU edition is at 08:00-09:00 PT / 15:00-16:00 UTC.
- The APAC edition is at 14:00-15:00 PT / 21:00-22:00 UTC.
- See the ToIP Calendar for all meeting dates, times and logistics, including Zoom links.
- We will produce one consolidated set of meeting notes for both editions together.
- Where it is helpful, the notes will indicate which notes were taken in which meeting.
Zoom Meeting Link / Recording
- NA/EU edition: https://zoom-lfx.platform.linuxfoundation.org/meeting/94825268487?password=6fb11d37-1280-410f-b406-a50bbd9c6f6d
- APAC edition: https://zoom-lfx.platform.linuxfoundation.org/meeting/94797381272?password=cefc277f-b03e-43ac-8e2c-37bc3d03e9d5
To see the recording of either meeting, click on the calendar entry for the meeting in the ToIP Calendar. The link to the Zoom recording should appear there approximately one hour after the meeting ends.
Attendees
- Scott Perry
- Jeff Braswell
- Neil Thomson
- Drummond Reed
- Steven Milstein
- Daniel Bachenheimer
- Darrell O'Donnell
- Makki Elfatih
Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)
Time | Agenda Item | Lead | Notes |
3 min |
| Chairs |
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10 min | General announcements | All | Updates from TSWG members of general interest to the group.
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2 min | Review of action items from the previous meeting | Chairs |
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20 min | Task Force Reports | TF Chairs | Technology Architecture TF — Wenjing Chu Drummond Reed
Trust Registry TF — Andor Antti Kettunen Darrell O'Donnell
Trust Spanning Protocol TF — Drummond Reed Wenjing Chu Sam Smith
AI and huMan Trust (AIM) TF — Wenjing Chu
High Assurance VIDs TF — Alex Tweeddale Scott Perry mathieu Andre Kudra Drummond Reed
DID SCID TF — Drummond Reed Markus Sabadello
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5 min | Spec-Up-T Update | This is the tool we are standardizing on for all ToIP deliverables—especially specifications. See this dashboard of all the current project repos currently using Spec-Up-T. | |
5 min | ToIP Foundational Documents Update Task Force | Drummond Reed | See the charter here. Much of this work may not start until the "slow period" in July/August. |
5 min | Proposed new Decentralized Trust Graph Working Group | Drummond Reed | This new WG was proposed at the April ToIP Steering Committee meeting. It is proposed to be a Joint Participation WG with DIF. The proposed charter is: The scope of the Decentralized Trust Graph Working Group (DTGWG) is to define the socio-technical standards for a decentralized trust graph (DTG) where there is no centralized database and all parties control their own subgraph of trust relationships. This work includes specifying requirements for interoperability, portability, security, privacy, and agency of DTG key management and recovery, verifiable identifiers, verifiable credentials, verifiable relationship credentials, social vouching, relationship cards (r-cards), privacy-preserving zero-knowledge proofs, trust task protocols, trust registries, out-of-band introductions, UI/UX affordances, decentralized naming and discovery mechanisms, and governance considerations. This work will be based on the Design Principles for the ToIP Stack, the ToIP Technology Architecture Specification, and other ToIP technical specifications. It will also align with existing decentralized identity (DID), verifiable credentials (VC), and federated networking standards to ensure broad compatibility and adoption across Web3 and decentralized social networking protocols such as Activity Pub, AT Protocol, NOSTR, and future social ecosystems. Neil Thomson asked about reputation management. Drummond Reed said that is indeed what social vouching addresses. |
5 min | Proposed new AI & Human Trust Working Group | Wenjing Chu | This is a second new WG proposed at the April ToIP Steering Committee by Wenjing. Steven Milstein said that the proposal is relatively new, but one motivation is that it puts governance in scope, so it's not just technology. Neil Thomson shared that this WG would have specific deliverables associated with agent-to-agent communications. Drummond Reed knows that Andor Kesselman, who has been active in AI work at DIF, has been discussing the potential for this Joint Participation WG with the current AIMTF. |
5 min |
| Chairs |
Decisions
- None
Action Items
- Drummond Reed to add detail about Task Forces to the Steering Committee questionnaire that Scott Perry will get him the link for.