2021-06-14 Weekly Meeting

8AM PT, 11AM ET, 16:00 UK, 17:00 CET

APAC xxxxx2021 - 0500h ET / 1530h India

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Attendees

• Darrell O'Donnell
• Drummond Reed
• Daniel Bachenheimer
• Dave McKay
• Kaliya Young
• Karl Kneis
• Michael Michael
• Oskar van Deventer
• Steve McCown

RECORDING 

Goals

• Assign action items for next meeting
• Establish work plan for WG deliverables and ensure action items have owners
• Gather agenda suggestions for next meeting

Agenda Items

Notes

• Darrell O'Donnell summarized recent decisions by the TSWG to simplify a description of the four-level model
• Oskar van Deventer explained that he has written a blog post that discussed renaming Layer 2
  
  • He included nine requirements
  • We had a discussion about layer naming and agreed that it was a good time to rename the layers to be more descriptive of their requirements
  • "Privacy routing layer" was suggested 
  • We had a long discussion about requirement #9 on Oskar's list: "The communication channel shall enable compliance with legal requirements, like legal intercept."
  • Oskar described the "trapezium" that telcos deal with
  • Karl Kneis pointed out that we need to be very careful about the designed of this layer
  • Drummond Reed pointed out this blog post on "Reciprocal Negotiated Acccountability" from Daniel Hardman
  • Karl Kneis warned about our not getting too deep on this topic
  • Oskar van Deventer  asked for feedback about the requirements. He noted that no current technology addressed all nine of the requirements.
  • Drummond Reed asked about whether this included DIDComm V2, which is still not complete.
• We moved to the topic of the EU Digital Identity Wallet announcements made on June 3
• Darrell O'Donnell announced that the Trust Registry Task Force will begin meeting on Thursdays at 10AM Eastern Time. 
• Karl Kneis asked about the status of the Saturn V TIP (ToIP Interoperability Profile).
  • Darrell O'Donnell suggested that the TIP may need a new name as the current name is too associated with American culture.
  • Darrell also suggested that the TIP needs some adjustments for greater alignment with different Hyperledger Aries implementations.
  • Karl Kneis would like to see this TIP putting out a clear spec and interoperability requirements, which is not yet the case, given the differences between Saturn V and the Aries Interoperability Profile.
• Kaliya Young suggested that the TSWG should open a conversation with the DIF Interoperability Working Group that she co-chairs.
  • And I think it is important to acknowledge that there is active work going on trying to get a real working bridge of communication between Airies based agents and the other cluster of real working interoperability SVIP - with WACI PEx (which is called for in the Good Health Pass Interoperability Blueprint)
  • Kaliya would like to see that by summer we are testing on this - exchanging JSON-LD ZKP with BBS+ credentials.
  • Darrell O'Donnell would like to see a more formal relationship

CLEANUP

• Take table, clean up (D&D), copy up to TSWG main page.

Announcement Details

• Reminders
  • Task Force Activities
    • Each TF is requested to prepare and maintain a TF plan with target dates. 
    • All TSWG TF Members should read our Deliverable Process and TIP Lifecycle Management; Open issues where appropriate. 
  • Events
    • Planned: None
  • Education Meetings
    • Planned: None
  • Resources - will be added to the TSWG Resources page:

TSWG APAC Interlock

APAC meetings not happening discretely at this time.

Task Force SOS (Scrum of Scrums)

<TODO: DARRELL clean table up - TF Name and the TF Deliverables>

Decision Points

• None

Discussion Topics

• Our Foundation Deliverable roadmap is a WIP (See Roadmap)
• Triage GitHub Issues

Action items

• Drumm & Darrell to clean this page up - goal is to move items OFF or UP (to TSWG page)
• Define and communicate to ToIP SC our deliverables and process. 

  • Needs to update current deck with suggestions for Use Cases Model for TSWG. Need to discuss Issue #1 - TIP Repo Template Contents

• Move SOS to Trello Boards for 2021 
  • Migration to Kanban tooling. 
    
    • Trello Account Setup; Board creation WIP. 
    • Goal is to improve WG reporting (scrum activity) and allow Task Forces to organize and manage activity.
    • Upon completion of KanBan boards: Convert TSWG Bi-monthy Meeting into a Monthly Scrum of Scrums (SOS); Allowing TFs to meet more frequently and to be more focused on actual deliverables than status updates.
• Sam Smith - Task Force Proposal for a meeting to be scheduled for January. 
  • Verifiable Authorizations: Mapping vCreds spec to authorization semantics. Positioning this concept with respect to other industry activity. 
  • Drummond noted that this thread was ongoing in the GitHub for the W3C Verifiable Credentials Data Model 1.0 spec, and that it was highly relevant to this proposed TF
• Set Agenda for next meeting

Open Items

Low priority items that failed to gain volunteers to champion cause.

• Change TSWG Mtg slot.
• ISO Interlock discussion : ToIP Liaison (Vicky Lemieux) to ISO TC 307 (Emily Dawson Secretariat)
• Need to establish chair duration and cycle times
• Possible library - collection of links