Time

Agenda Item

Lead

Notes

5 min

• Welcome & antitrust notice

• Introduction of new members

• Agenda review

• Recording with transcription is now automatic

Chairs

• Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws.

• ToIP Policy: Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.

• ToIP TSWG IPR Policy:

•  see TF wiki page 

5 mins

• Introduction of new members

• Any general announcements news, that could be of interest to the TF

• T review of action items that are not in the agenda below

All

• Any new members to introduce

• Any news to share

• Agent AX: https://agentexperience.ax/concepts/principles-of-ax/

• GDC participation by ToIP

• Google IO: Meet translator, Updated Glass

• OpenAI + IO

• AI energy use: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/ai-impact-tracker/lbeceglchgnhaaidddcdgapnacdjofpf?authuser=0&hl=fr&pli=1

  • See also MIT Technology Review articles on the subject - 4 ways to reduce energy use: https://www.technologyreview.com/2025/05/20/1116337/ai-energy-use-optimism/

5 mins

WG Approved

Wenjing Chu

The approved charter is as follows:

AI & Human Trust Working Group Charter

The AI and Human Trust Working Group (AIM) is to focus on studies and recommendations that (1) apply ToIP solutions to enhance human trust in AI technologies, and (2) integrate AI technologies to better solve trust challenges in the context of human and AI interactions.The Working Group’s deliverables may include insight reports, position white papers, and specifications and recommendations. 

Example areas of work include but not limited to White papers about strengthening trust in human and AI interactions leveraging the Trust Spanning Protocol (TSP) and other components of the ToIP stack, Communication protocols between AI agents, and between AI agents and non-AI data resources, services, tools etc., Authenticity and provenance of content and data, Personhood and AI agent identities, Delegation, accountability, and control of AI agents, and How to build trust in AI Agents frameworks.

LINK to current TF: https://lf-toip.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/HOME/pages/22982892/AI+huMan+trust+Task+Force

All IPR options will remain the same as the latest TSWG charter (i.e. W3C patent mode).

OPEN: logistics of migrating TF to WG.

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Working Session on Use Cases

Neil Thomson

Steven Milstein

•  Neil Thomson: Create an empty Google Doc for Agent Epic User Stories & share the link here & in Slack

• #tswg-aim-tf
•  Use next week's timeslot as working session to start filling in document
•  Neil Thomson  11:23 AM
  
  I've put up two files as optionsTrust Agent Use Cases.gdoc(google doc)
  Trust Agent Use Cases.md(markdown)

• Steven Milstein https://hackmd.io/@stevenmilstein/H1ng0o7-gg

• Neil Thomson https://trustoverip.slack.com/files/U0161E2T6MN/F08SATK5T1R/personaldataprofileconfidence_v0_2.pptx?origin_team=T014XHHP0P5&origin_channel=C03G3S7BH8U

•  Next step: Use travel as general background for case studies, but start with a simple scenario first:
•  Research destination, ... , finally book a ticket.
•  Neil Thomson will help reuse some of the existing work at DIF to illustrate this use case

•  Nicky Hickman suggested this starting point for glossary: https://trustoverip.slack.com/files/U015LB6L5L3/F08UA1S1R6U/oxford_sbs_artificial_intelligence_module_1_unit_0_glossary.pdf?origin_team=T014XHHP0P5&origin_channel=C03G3S7BH8U
•  Formulate a list of trust tasks involved in this case
•  This will be the first starting point. We will re-evaluate the need to expand to more complex use cases in order to better cover all critical aspects.

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Fantastic Trust Tasks and Where to Find Them?

Steven Milstein

This is a topic proposed from the Slack discussions:

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/stevenmilstein_insights-lf-decentralized-trust-activity-7326340926874836992-I019?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAAAAREyYBDb60Qh9ppoI-QPnHFXKlaFCpCjk

https://trustoverip.slack.com/archives/C03G3S7BH8U/p1747228860297599

Following @Steven Milstein

 great lead, I ask what are a good set of trust tasks to have for ai applications?

 Can we come up a list? As implied by being a protocol,

 we like to abstract many similar tasks to a small number of reusable patterns (ie protocols). This list will be incredibly valuable for planning our work and give substance to the term trust tasks. In the past, we used examples like credential exchange,

 agreement signing,

 consent… but coming up with a real list would be a great contribution.

Drummond Reed shared https://glossary.trustoverip.org/#term:trust-task

Eric Drury: "check out the ToIP Model - towards the bottom of the page you'll see the trust tasks on Layer 3: https://www.trustoverip.org/toip-model/ "

5 mins

TRACKING OPEN ACTION ITEMS

ALL

• OPEN: logistics of migrating TF to WG.

• OPEN: Does LFDT provide any metrics for the AIM paper published? Downloads, views, etc? Inquiry sent.

• OPEN: The TSP+C2PA+CAWG white paper:  interest to see it as a specification or implementation? Can be a collaboration between AIM & CAWG (and along with TSP and C2PA respectively). 

  • • Reach out to Eric Scouten for feedback. – Not yet.

• CLOSED OPEN: Upgrading this TF to a WG, scheduled for May 21

  • Use the same charter template (same IPR options) as TSWG, but replace the scope with AIM's

• CLOSED: Promotions: of the White Paper in LFDT blogs (emailed Emily) - Completed. LFDT Insights out.

• Some logistic issues:

  • ? OPEN subscribing to this meeting reported by Eric Drury

  • OPEN getting host code to kick out un-identified bots- reached out to Michelle but waiting for reply.

  • CLOSED OPEN finding links to auto-saved recordings and transcripts and ai summaries: Answer is LFX. Log in to the correct account.

  • CLOSED old recordings missing (from 2023) - is it expired?

    • Michelle Janata confirmed that during the move those old recordings are lost. Gone.