Meeting Date & Time
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- NA/EU meeting: 08:00-09:00 PT / 16:00-17:00 UTC
- APAC meeting: 18:00-19:00 PT / 02:00-03:00 UTC
See the Calendar of ToIP Meetings for exact meeting dates, times and Zoom links.
Zoom Meeting Links / Recordings
- NA/EU Meeting: https://zoom.us/rec/j/97402960831?pwd=dVdYRWNOOEE3a3ZpQXVLM1h5VFpUQT09share/FgL9IIiH2TwFEu6JhOadvzmo9ULwvyPiXyOJSmA_n-LyiTe7AjQSo-p_EHNPudOL.XVtkdnswmnRV7yhN
- APAC Meeting: https://zoom.us/j/96772881287?pwd=bzZUNXRhVUNzVjR2Z3B2cVVxc2ZUZz09
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Attendees
NA/EU:
- Drummond Reed <== will be 30 minutes late due to OpenWallet Foundation board meeting
- Wenjing Chu <== will be 30 minutes late due to OpenWallet Foundation board meeting
- Sam Smith
- Darrell O'DonnellAntti Kettunen
- Ed Eykholt
- Ajay Jadhav
- Tim BoumaBo Harald
- Christine MartinCharles Lanahan
- Daniel Bachenheimer
- Judith FleenorEric Scouten
- Lance ByrdJesse Carter
- mathieuJonathan Rayback
- Neil ThomsonJudith Fleenor
- Oskar van DeventerTim Bouma
- Rodolfo MirandaChristine Martin
- Steve McCownPhilip Feairheller
- Viky ManailaMark Scott
- Willem de KokNeil Thomson
- Philip FeairhellerSteven Milstein Ed Eykholt
- Wendy Seltzer
APAC:
- Drummond Reed Dima Postnikov
- Darrell O'Donnell
- Eric DruryJo Spencer Jo Spencer
- sankarshan .
- ..Daniel Bachenheimer
Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)
Time | Agenda Item | Lead | Notes |
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0 min | Review of previous action items | Leads | None |
25 mins | CESR and CBOR Deterministic Encoding | Sam Smith | Sam will give an update on the CESR (Composable Event Streaming Representation) specifications. Ideally he will also be able to contrast CESR with a new IETF specification called CBOR Common Deterministic Encoding (CDE) aka draft-ietf-cbor-cde-00. On the W3C Credentials Community Group mailing list, Anders Rundgren said CDE may be significant because: Sam explained that TSP routing is a unique combination of vector and table routing. He shared this discussion thread from the KERI work: https://github.com/WebOfTrust/keripy/discussions/612 See screenshot #1 below. Ed Eykholt asked if it is proposed that CESR is the only serialization format for the TSP. Sam explained that yes, because CESR can carry JSON, CBOR, and MsgPack. |
25 mins | Working Draft Review | Wenjing Chu | Wenjing went over the latest additions to the spec as it nears content completion. See screenshots #2-#6 below that cover control messages and relationship formation. ACTION: Wenjing Chu and Sam Smith to prepare a "spec reviewer's tour guide" to highlight particular sections and issues on which they as editors would like feedback as TSPTF members do a full-spec read-through over our 3 week holiday break. |
NA | Cross-Group Collaboration | All | On the APAC call, sankarshan brought up the more general question of how different ToIP WGs are or are not coordinating their work. He noted that some groups are widely separated in terms of how closely they are aligning with others—in particular with the TSWG specs coming out in the first half of 2024. |
5 mins |
| Leads | We plan to have one more regular meeting this month (Wednesday 13 December) and then take off 3 weeks for the holidays, i.e., skip the Dec 20, 27, and Jan 3 meetings. So our first meeting in 2024 will be Wednesday Jan 10. |
Screenshots/Diagrams (numbered for reference in notes above)
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Decisions
- Sample Decision ItemNone
Action Items
- Sample Action ItemACTION: Wenjing Chu and Sam Smith to prepare a "spec reviewer's tour guide" for next week's meetings to highlight particular sections and issues on which they as editors would like feedback as TSPTF members do a full-spec read-through over our 3 week holiday break.