Meeting Date

• 06 Nov 2023 The ToIP Trust Registry Task Force (TRTF) meets weekly twice every Thursday at the following times (to cover global time zones - see the Calendar of ToIP Meetings for full meeting info including Zoom links):

  • NA/EU 07:00-8:00 PT / 15:00-16:00 UTC 

  • APAC 18:00-19:00 PT / 02:00-03:00 UTC

Zoom Meeting Link / Recording

• NA/EU MEETING: 

  • Darrell O'Donnell

  • Tim Bouma

  • @David Poltorak

  • Jesse Carter

  • Drummond Reed

  • Markus Sabadello

  • Fabrice Rochette

  • @Subhasis

  • Eric Drury

Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)

Notes:

• Jesse Carter : TRQP and OIDF

• Darrell O'Donnell : Do they fall into the specification itself.

  • Supporting material

• Antti Kettunen

• @TODO: Folder

• Focuses

  • Motivations : Spec and needs cleanup

  • Use Cases : Supporting material

  • Interaction Pattern Documentation : Supporting but informs spec. Non-normative.

    • Interaction Patterns: Other ecosystems.

    • 2 interaction patterns:

      • How do I use the TRQP?

      • How do I support the TRQP, so what do I need?

    • Tim Bouma : For implementers, knowing how it is implemented in the context of building is really important to use it. Needs to internalize the model before implement it.

    • Antti Kettunen : More abstraction the more complexity. The model is simple, but complexity in interpreting it.

      • Implementers guide would be a document to help people to understand how to start to work the abstract data model.

    • @Subhasis :

      • Looking at it from an implementers side.

      • Really struggling on how to implement the specification on both sides.

        • Governance side : everything is governed as strings, not sure how to use it.

        • OIDF Side: Diagram with bridge to OIDF, not sure how to do it.

        • Implementers guide: Extremely important to support the statements being made.

    • Darrell O'Donnell :

      • Agreed. Critically important.

      • If someone is waiting for the implementation guide, might not be for them right now.

    • @Subhasis : Can be two separate documents, but specification without implementers guide is difficult to interpret.

    • Darrell O'Donnell :

    • Image Added

    • @Dave Poltorak : What’s the state of the spec?

    • Darrell O'Donnell : On Implementers Draft

    • Jesse shared this document : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E6lj8NdpNmScFKYMK3P9em1riJCx3c5H8y-lgqgwU4s/edit?usp=sharing

    • Drummond: Implementers leading to an implementers guide is a good thing

    • Tim Bouma : API first vs. Protocol first models.

    • Document isn’t the deliverable. Community is the deliverable.

• Ecosystems are discovered out of band

  • DON’T assume you’re using the TRQP to “discover” new systems to trust (i.e. new EGFs). That is out-of-band. 

  • DO assume that the EGFs that you are aware of create a simple web.

• Bhutan :

  • Credential in bhutan

  • Member of EGF

    • Multi-hop question vs. discovery question

    • This is not a data modeling question.

    • This is a business question.

  • A lot of different questions, and clumping them.

  • with OID federation,

    • Do we have a common root?

    • Are you authorized to issue attestations?

    • Do we share a governance framework that governs this authorization

    • Do we have a common ancestor?

    • Multiple small questions

  • Drummond Reed It seems like we have two categories of queries: graph traversal queries (to get to the authoritative TR) and then authorization queries (once you have located the authoritative TR).

    • Antti Kettunen What about “provide me a certificate I can use to verify a signature”? Is that an authorisation query?

  • Drummond: Needs to be as general as we can.

  • TRTF Next Week

    • Validity status / revocation?

Screenshots/Diagrams (numbered for reference in notes above)

Decisions

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Action Items

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