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16.00 UTC = 9:00 PT = 12.00 ET =18:00 CEST = 21:30 IST Zoom Meeting Link https://zoom.us/j/99429712733?pwd=K214bTM4cG54YzZYVnZCL1I5MEdQQT09

Meeting Recording

Main Goal of this meeting: 

Attendees: Neil Thomson Alta Nel, Nicky Hickman Drummond Reed Judith Fleenor Salvatore D'Agostino Andrew Slack 

TimeItemLeadNotes
5 mins
  • Welcome & antitrust notice

  • Agenda review
Andrew
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10minsIntro's & UpdatesAndrew

Alta Nel: based in SA, UX Designer on Yoma project - interest in UX of SSI

Salvatore D'Agostino (Sal) involved w/ToIP - NCTF - controller credential, advanced notice & consent WG at Kantara Initiative - transparency around notice.  Boston USA base.  

Drummond Reed Tech Architecture TF - Public review at IIW on 15th - confidence

Judith Fleenor Data Representation & Modelling group met for 1st time, 

Neil Thomson discussion ref data transformation, presentations on why gathering data is so difficult.  Discussion also ref term 'authentic'. Will have different meanings in different domains (e.g. data, message, human, etc).  Needs qualification.

Move date / cancel session - Workshop on Business Scenarios on 17th November  See this Miro

SSI Harms paper - Overcoming Human Harm Challenges in Digital Identity Ecosystems, now ready for review.  .  Our intention is to be ready for Public Review 15th November.  Please feel free to leave comments on the working doc here by Friday 11th November:   

Nicky Hickman to prepare video so that IIW session is possible. Neil Thomson offered to host a session

Neil Thomson suggested mapping framework to Tech architecture. 

20minsLast Expert Series FinthropologyAndrew

Reviewing take-aways from last expert series

No time 

20minsWallet TF for OWFAndrew

Drummond Reed Not ready to launch - but OWF developing at pace

Judith Fleenor - notify OWF that HXWG will convene for UX

Drummond Reed yesterday's call devoted to associate members (e.g. NGO, NPO, public sector), carry out via associate membership, discuss at member summit, Many from LF will be there. 


 See this document

Judith Fleenor suggested removing SSI, also digital objects

Open question on name and scope

Drummond Reed 'identity, payment & utility' credentials (last is keys to access)

2 levels of interaction, associate members = other non-profits so ToIP could join as associate members, in order to facilitate contributions and n/w'g at OWF.

OWF is a code project - about wallet engine and underlying requirements for all sorts of wallet projects.

Here's the engine, but if you want to put it in a car that's safe to drive, here's what you need to consider in the design of that car.

How it works? customer requirements definition = HXWG TF work

Judith Fleenor what are the licensing constraints - should be no problem if align

Drummond Reed still being defined -we will make that so,

Judith Fleenor then a liaison is possible otherwise simple pointing 

DECISION:  HXWG must approve - send email to members list, set up wiki page on confluence, infrastructure on meeting.

Action: Andrew -1)  make the TF folder, 2) ask for WG Consensus, 7 days no objections then go. 3) make video then launch at IIW .  Mailing list to be created.  Slack channel easy, but mailing list in groups.io needs a set up.

Alta agreed to support Andrew, currently on 3rd iteration of their 3rd wallet, having community backing and already doing reviews on some of the tasks.

good to get input for different domains and a diverse set of use cases - Yoma is as inclusive as it comes

Also working on the admin portal for issuers and opportunity providers in Yoma

Neil Thomson commented here are the patterns, these are the driving forces, here are some examples - good way of saying 

Andrew Slack Nice principle 'conformity not uniformity'

5minsAOB & ActionsAndrew

Andrew Slack to do the last work on cutting the video, notify Judith Fleenor in slack when done